[Cz-biology] Species names

[David Goodman]

Findability is not the problem. Any and all names though appropriate
can be used as a cross reference, and also included in the article.

On 10/26/07, Larry Sanger <sanger at citizendium.org> wrote:
> Well, it's a findability contest.  :-)  And findability is a very difficult
> thing indeed.  We already have a mountain to climb, getting our articles
> high in the Google rankings...though we are making headway there...
>
> It's important for names to be
>
> (1) precise
> (2) as user-friendly as possible
>
> I am convinced there is a way to do (2) without sacrificing (1).
>
> --Larry
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: cz-biology-bounces at mail.citizendium.org
> > [mailto:cz-biology-bounces at mail.citizendium.org] On Behalf Of
> > Kim van der Linde
> > Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 3:55 AM
> > To: Biology Workgroup List
> > Subject: Re: [Cz-biology] Species names
> >
> >
> > David,
> >
> > Look at for example the site of Tree-of-Life:
> > http://www.tolweb.org/ all
> > name there a re on the scientific name only, for example
> > http://www.tolweb.org/Barnardius_zonarius/91491 and there are various
> > other websites doing the same.
> >
> > The scholarly consensus various per species, the fluffier the
> > more the
> > common name is used, but many many science articles use 'Drosophila'
> > (strictly speaking a genus name) synonymous for 'Drosophila
> > melanogaster', but none in their right mind would suggest to
> > do that for
> > a encyclopaedia article.
> >
> > If it is all a popularity contest, that is fine, but I hope
> > to avoid that.
> >
> > Kim
> >
> > David Goodman wrote:
> > > It's consistent all right, but  I thought we were to represent the
> > > scholarly consensus. The scholarly consensus of journal
> > editors is to
> > > do nothing of the sort., as i showed for the panda. I was unable to
> > > find one single article in one single journal in all of Biological
> > > Abstracts where the title was the way we proposed it. The
> > usages was
> > > about evenly split in article titles between Common name (scientific
> > > name) and Common name only.
> > >
> > > Conceivably this is an exception. I'll try some other examples.
> > >
> > > David Goodman
> > >
> > > On 10/25/07, Kim van der Linde <kim at kimvdlinde.com> wrote:
> > >> For those who just through this medium jump in to the very
> > specific
> > >> case (Giant Panda), please see the discussion of this at
> > >> http://en.citizendium.org/wiki/CZ_Talk:Biology_Workgroup at the
> > >> various entries. Before people based on the Giant Panda make
> > >> decisions for many species, please consider the following:
> > >>
> > >> 1. We have (multiple) common names for the fluffy and the
> > furry and
> > >> the beautiful stuff, but there are many many without a
> > common name:
> > >> 1a. What about those without a common name? 1b. What about
> > those with
> > >> a very uncommon used common name? 1c. What if one species
> > has two or
> > >> more common names (for example: Monk parrot (British)
> > versus Quacker
> > >> Parrot (parts of the US); Cougar or Mountain Lion or Puma)
> > >> 1d. What about common names used for multiple groups (for
> > example: are
> > >> the Drosophilidae or the Tethritidae the fruitflies)?
> > >>
> > >> 2. Each and every name can be created as a redirect to the
> > specific
> > >> page, as such, Giant Panda
> > >> (http://en.citizendium.org/wiki/Giant_Panda)
> > >> redirects to
> > >>
> > http://en.citizendium.org/wiki/Ailuropoda_melanoleuca_(Giant_P
> > anda) just
> > >> as http://en.citizendium.org/wiki/Ailuropoda_melanoleuca
> > should point to
> > >>
> > http://en.citizendium.org/wiki/Ailuropoda_melanoleuca_(Giant_P
> > anda) just
> > >> as Bai Xiong, Bamboo Bear, Da Xiong Mao, Hua Xiong, Mo, Pi
> > xiu, Panda
> > >> and Panda Bear. As such, searching is not an issue at all,
> > and both the
> > >> title as well as the first sentence makes immediately clear what is
> > >> going on.
> > >>
> > >> Base on al this, it was proposed on the Biology workgroup
> > talkpage to
> > >> use the following solution:
> > >> ----------------
> > >> # Each species or higher taxon, except exceptions below, are to be
> > >> written under their official scientific name. If there is a single
> > >> established common name, that name is included in the
> > title between
> > >> parenthesis. (e.g. "''Barnardius zonarius'' (Australian
> > Ringneck)").
> > >> # Groups that are included in the "''Latin name'' (Common name)"
> > >> system are:
> > >> #* Birds ([http://www.worldbirdnames.org/names.html
> > offcial names]).
> > >> #* Mammals ([http://www.bucknell.edu/msw3/ the single authoritative
> > >> source for mammal names]).
> > >> #* Other groups to be added if a single authoritative
> > source has been
> > >> established.
> > >> # If a single authoritative common name is available for a
> > species (see
> > >> point above), that name is to be used in the article and overrules
> > >> English dialect varieties.
> > >> # Subspecies and specific populations are included in the
> > article of the
> > >> species, unless they warrant a full article by themselves
> > due to the
> > >> amount of subspecies specific information.
> > >> # All common names are created as redirects to the main
> > article. All
> > >> scientific synonyms are created as redirects to the main
> > article. In
> > >> case of the "''Latin name'' (Common name)" scheme, the the main
> > >> scientific name is also created as a redirect.
> > >> # Exceptions. The following domesticated species are
> > created under their
> > >> common name, most of the time using "Domesticated " as a prefix:
> > >> #* [[Human]] (''Homo sapiens sapiens'')
> > >> #* [[Domesticated horse]] (''Equus ferus caballus'')
> > >> #* [[Domesticated cat]] (''Felis silvestris catus'')
> > >> #* [[Domesticated dog]] (''Canis lupus familiaris'')
> > >> #* [[Donkey]] (''Equus asinus asinus'') or (''Equus
> > africanus assinus'')
> > >> #* To be completed. (''Camelus ferus''; ''Lama guanicoe'';
> > ''Vicugna
> > >> vicugna''; ''Bos primigenius''; ''Bos gaurus''; ''Bubalus
> > arnee''; ''Bos
> > >> mutus''; ''Capra aegagrus''; ''Ovis orientalis''; ''Cavia aperea'';
> > >> ''Mustela putorius''; ''Carassius gibelio''; ''Bombyx
> > mandarina'', etc.)
> > >> ----------------------
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David Goodman, Ph.D, M.L.S.