[Cz-biology] [Cz-health-sci] [Cz-philosophy] Abortion article

Fri Oct 26 09:30:02 CDT 2007

Hello Everyone,

I don't find problems with the article per se, but it does not have the
style or content I would expect for an encyclopedia. The questions raised
are valid, but it is fairly vague on the biology side. It seems more like a
list of "unanswered moral questions" surrounding abortion, rather than an
article on abortion. So this is more appropriate for philosophy, where it
was posted, than biology or medicine. But it also does not seem to cover the
philosophical questions very thoroughly either.

In other words, as others have said, this needs more work. I suggest a title
change to account for the fact that it is about the moral questions
surrounding abortion.

John M.

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[mailto:cz-biology-bounces at voltaire.citizendium.org] On Behalf Of Larry
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Subject: Re: [Cz-biology] [Cz-health-sci] [Cz-philosophy] Abortion article

All,

Matt Innis has reinstated the article, by editor request.

http://en.citizendium.org/wiki/Abortion

Clearly, it needs to be formatted and rendered into encyclopedic form.  As
it stands now, it looks like course notes.  For that reason, I've moved the
article to the talk page: it needs to be formatted and rendered into regular
prose paragraphs, at the very least, before it can be displayed even as an
"article in progress."

I don't actually spot any very obvious bias problems.  It looks like
excellent course notes (I can't tell if they are the teacher's or the
student's!) for several hours of lecture/discussion about abortion in a
philosophy class.

My opinion, not as editor-in-chief but as someone who has taught the subject
to college students, is that it's an excellent place to start.  But you'd
really have to know the subject to be able to convert these raw notes into
an article.  That's why I've put the article on the talk page.

Note that we already have an article that covers medical methods of
contraception:
http://en.citizendium.org/wiki/Contraception_%28medical_methods%29

--Larry

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Subject: Re: [Cz-biology] [Cz-health-sci] [Cz-philosophy] Abortion article

I'd also like to see it.

Diana
Diana Zuckerman, Ph.D.
President
National Research Center for Women & Families
1701 K Street, NW, Suite 700
Washington, DC 20006
(202) 223-4000
www.center4research.org

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From: John Hymers <mailto:hymers at gmail.com>  
To: Dr. S N Sarbadhikari <mailto:supten at amrita.edu>  
Cc: cz-biology at mail.citizendium.org ; cz-philosophy at mail.citizendium.org ;
John Stephenson <mailto:citizendium at linguistics.org.uk>  ;
cz-health-sci at mail.citizendium.org ;
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Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 7:53 AM
Subject: Re: [Cz-health-sci] [Cz-philosophy] Abortion article

although i am sure your judgement was correct, i would still love to read
this piece ...
cheers, john

On 10/26/07, Dr. S N Sarbadhikari <  <mailto:supten at amrita.edu>
supten at amrita.edu> wrote: 

I agree with Harvey
Supten

>     I don't see why it is necessary to "do" anything with it (except 
> perhaps
> to add citations to referenced philosphers).
>
>     The author has done an excellent job of showing both sides, meaning
> that
> extremists on both sides will be annoyed. There is no way an article on a 
> controversial topic can be written without annoying someone. Let it be.
>
> Harvey
> =========================
> Harvey S. Frey MD PhD Esq.
> hsfrey at harp.org  <mailto:hsfrey at harp.org>   www.harp.org
> =========================
>
> ----- Original Message -----
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> To: <Cz-biology at mail.citizendium.org>;
> <Cz-health-sci at mail.citizendium.org
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> Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2007 11:08 PM
> Subject: [Cz-health-sci] Abortion article
>
>
>> To biologists, health scientists and philosophers (copied to
>> constabulary in case of future problems), 
>>
>> You might want to take a look at the Abortion article, started by new
>> author Peter Whale. I really don't know what to do or where to begin
>> with it.
>>
>> http://en.citizendium.org/wiki/Abortion
>>
>> He has assigned it to the philosophy workgroup.
>>
>> John.

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