[Cz-biology] Auto-created articles about genes

[Larry Sanger]

David, as far as I can tell, your central and only operative claim is: "Good
material being on both is a benefit to all users, who are the people we are
doing this for."  I gave several reasons to think this isn't the case, and
you haven't answered any of them.  In addition, you subtly accuse me of
having a narrowminded perspective, an accusation that I trust needs no
response.

--Larry

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> David Goodman
> Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2007 11:38 PM
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> Subject: Re: [Cz-biology] Auto-created articles about genes
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> 
> Larry, both projects have everything to gain if they share 
> information. Good material being on both is a benefit to all 
> users, who are the people we are doing this for.  Each 
> project has its domain, but they widely overlap--as education 
> does more generally.  As long as our material is not 
> contaminated by the unauthoritativeness of Wikipedia editing, 
> we have nothing more to ask.
> 
> Both projects have everything to lose if participate is 
> exclusive. If I were in a position of having to choose, and 
> project A objected to project B also participating, and 
> project B didn't mind project A, I would unhesitatingly and 
> immediately go with project B. If they each insisted on 
> exclusivity, I'd look for a third solution.
> 
> We see here an example of a commercial organization 
> recognizing that the diffusion of both its information and 
> its ability to collect and correlate information in its 
> subject is beneficial to the public in general, and 
> particularly those interested in its general subject field.  
> They will benefit from the public relations, yes, but they 
> will benefit even more from the growth of pubic awareness and 
> general knowledge of molecular biology. They are not 
> unique--many scientific businesses have done this all along, 
> and science research and education is the richer for it.
> 
> They show a broader perspective in this than the attitude 
> that you have expressed.
> 
> In terms of biological informatics, the material they will be 
> providing has the highest possible standing. For them not to 
> cooperate with us will harm our reputation, not theirs.
> 
> On 9/20/07, Larry Sanger <sanger at citizendium.org> wrote:
> > Thanks for this, Andrew.  My comments:
> 
> >
> > > The WP bot trial period is done, so we
> > > expect to go into mass production mode there later this week.
> >
> > Again, I think that's a bad idea.  I would be forced to 
> reconsider my 
> > stance.
> >
> > > Although hiccups aren't unexpected, I hope to have at least >
> > --Larry
> >
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