[Cz-biology] Requesting consideration of approval of[[Life/Draft]]to replace [[Life]]

[David Goodman]

Philosophy of biology to me is less important than actual biology, but then
I'm a biologist not a philosopher. What life ultimately is and how  life is
exactly  defined cannot be intelligently discussed until you know what its
physical structure consists of.  I'd move all the philosophy to a separate
article as subsidiary. The main article on the subject should be about life
as biology.
This is too important an article to proceed without some time for thought
about it.

On Jan 20, 2008 3:59 PM, John Moffett <john at factinista.org> wrote:

>  Hello All,
>
> Yes, the article is much improved, and should replace the old one. Changes
> and additions can be made later. By philosophy of biology I meant it
> discussed ideas about what life is and how it is defined more than it
> discusses the basics of how life works (membranes, metabolism, eukaryotes
> vs. prokaryotes, ribosomes and the relation between genes and proteins, gene
> regulation, evolution, etc).
>
> John M.
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> *From:* cz-biology-bounces at voltaire.citizendium.org [mailto:
> cz-biology-bounces at voltaire.citizendium.org] *On Behalf Of *Anthony
> Sebastian
> *Sent:* Sunday, January 20, 2008 2:22 PM
>
> *To:* 'Biology Workgroup List'
> *Subject:* Re: [Cz-biology] Requesting consideration of approval
> of[[Life/Draft]]to replace [[Life]]
>
>  Workgroup:
>
>
>
> I agree with John that we need to include the commonalities of metabolism
> and information processing in the article.  But that will take some time to
> get right and succinct – universality of biochemistry.  We can do that in
> the next draft.
>
>
>
> I just think we have a much improved draft now compared with the approved
> version, and should make the substitution now to show a better version.
>
>
>
> I disagree the article discusses the philosophy of biology.  It tries to
> discuss the shared characteristics of all living things, as much as we know
> it today.
>
>
>
> Thanks.
>
>
>
> Anthony.Sebastian
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>
> From: cz-biology-bounces at mail.citizendium.org [mailto:
> cz-biology-bounces at mail.citizendium.org] On Behalf Of John Moffett
> Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2008 5:59 AM
> To: 'Biology Workgroup List'
> Subject: Re: [Cz-biology] Requesting consideration of approval of
> [[Life/Draft]]to replace [[Life]]
>
>
>
> Hello All,
>
>
>
> It will take some time to go through all that to look for problems or
> omissions. In general, it looks good, but from a biologist's perspective
> it seems to discuss the philosophy of biology more than the substance of it.
> For example, any discussion of life that leaves out ribosomes, and the
> DNA-RNA-protein expression system is not really getting to the meat of the
> subject of how life works.
>
>
>
> John
>
>
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>
> From: cz-biology-bounces at voltaire.citizendium.org [mailto:
> cz-biology-bounces at voltaire.citizendium.org] On Behalf Of Anthony
> Sebastian
> Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2008 8:24 PM
> To: cz-biology at voltaire.citizendium.org
> Subject: [Cz-biology] Requesting consideration of approval of
> [[Life/Draft]]to replace [[Life]]
>
> Biology Workgroup:
>
>
>
> Please review the draft version of the approved article, [[Life]], at
> http://en.citizendium.org/wiki/Life/Draft.  Please consider it for
> approval to replace the approved version, as it has been considerably
> reworked since its April '07 approval, and may be an improvement over what
> we have now as the approved version.
>
>
>
> Thank you.
>
>
>
> Anthony.Sebastian
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