[Cz-biology] Gene articles, and new biologists arriving

Daniel Mietchen daniel.mietchen at googlemail.com
Fri Jul 11 15:01:38 CDT 2008


Well, I am doing a summer course with students from about 20 different
universities, and I would prefer to have CZ mails designed such that
they pass those spam filters (there should be standards for that
somewhere, but I have no idea about the details), rather than
switching the settings of university mail servers across the globe.

The culprits are
http://en.citizendium.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Confirmaccount-email-body
and
http://en.citizendium.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Confirmaccount-email-body2
and I suspect it's the quantity of links and perhaps some key phrases
that raise the spam index of these messages beyond the levels commonly
accepted by university mail servers.
Daniel

On Fri, Jul 11, 2008 at 9:21 PM, Marielle <marielle at gmail.com> wrote:
> Some university accounts have spam filters that prevent e-mails from
> even entering the spam folder.  I know that you could disable this
> feature for cornell.edu mailboxes, so your university mail server
> might have a similar option.
>
> On Fri, Jul 11, 2008 at 2:57 PM, Daniel Mietchen
> <daniel.mietchen at googlemail.com> wrote:
>> On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 9:51 PM, Larry Sanger <sanger at citizendium.org> wrote:
>>> Well, I wish I knew what more *could* be done.  The main problem that
>>> happens with applications is that people never receive their
>>> automatically-sent e-mails--either the e-mail confirmation mails, or the
>>> welcome mails.  For some reason, they keep getting shunted into spam
>>> folders.  We aren't aware of our being on any spam blacklists, or we'd do
>>> something to get off them.
>>>
>>> The single best piece of advice we can give to people who are signing up
>>> their classes for Eduzendium is: have students check their spam folders for
>>> mail from CZ.
>> I gave this advice to my students, but I was told repeatedly that those CZ
>> mails didn't even make it to the spam folders. This seems to be the case
>> with university accounts in particular.
>> Daniel
>>
>>>
>>> --Larry
>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: cz-biology-bounces at mail.citizendium.org
>>>> [mailto:cz-biology-bounces at mail.citizendium.org] On Behalf Of
>>>> Daniel Mietchen
>>>> Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 3:10 PM
>>>> To: Biology Workgroup List
>>>> Cc: The Citizendium Constabulatory
>>>> Subject: Re: [Cz-biology] Gene articles, and new biologists arriving
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi Larry,
>>>> I think it is the right time to start banging the drums among
>>>> biologists. However, I noticed that more than half of the
>>>> students of my summer course had problems with their
>>>> registration, and I do not think they are much less
>>>> computer-literate than the biologists we wish to join us.
>>>> Please give this some more thoughts before you launch the
>>>> calls for participation. Thanks, Daniel
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 2:21 PM, Larry Sanger
>>>> <sanger at citizendium.org> wrote:
>>>> > See http://news.google.com/news?q=Citizendium
>>>> >
>>>> > All the hits on Google News for us now (about 90 of them)
>>>> are due to
>>>> > the fact that we ultimately turned down Andrew Su in his long and
>>>> > well-intended effort to get us to adopt pages about genes!  It's a
>>>> > pity!  But I think it would have ultimately been a
>>>> disappointment for
>>>> > Andrew to see the gene articles uploaded here and then
>>>> staying dormant
>>>> > for who knows how long. Wikipedia does have a vigorous if imperfect
>>>> > system, and perhaps his articles will be well served there.
>>>> >
>>>> > Meanwhile, I'll be doing a great deal on Biology Week in the coming
>>>> > weeks. This will involve, among other things, posting many
>>>> > announcements about CZ on biology mailing lists and forums, etc.  I
>>>> > hope you'll join in with that. As a result, we'll probably see a
>>>> > sizeable influx of biologists, and while as usual many of
>>>> them won't
>>>> > be active (it's a numbers game), a good few of them very
>>>> probably will
>>>> > be.  Especially if they have encouragement from the old hands!
>>>> >
>>>> > --Larry
>>>> >
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