[Cz-biology] Giant panda/naming

[Volk, David E.]

We had a VERY long running discussion about this awhile back.  Perhaps someone can find that and make a link to it.
As I recall, the trouble with common names is that multiple species can have the same common name, so that the option
using only the common name is automatically not feasible.

dave

David E. Volk, Ph.D.
Research Scientist
Department of Biochemistry and Molecular Biology
Sealy Center for Structural Biology and Molecular  Biophysics
University of Texas Medical Branch
Galveston, TX 77555-1157
Office: 409-747-6803
Cell:    409-789-8588
email: devolk at utmb.edu

"Science is the organized skepticism in the reliability of expert opinion." 
        Richard Feynman


"All truth passes through three stages:
                   First, it is ridiculed.
      Second, it is violently opposed.
Third, it is accepted as being self-evident"
     Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)



From: Larry Sanger
Sent: Mon 6/9/2008 11:14 AM
To: 'Biology Workgroup List'
Subject: Re: [Cz-biology] Giant panda/naming


Well, only three people have voted so far.  Make up your mind before you
look at the voting page, please.  Unless there is a reasonably significant
percentage of the Biology Workgroup voting, I would not consider the results
legitimate.

Indeed, probably we should weight biology editors' votes appropriately.

But the important thing now is to vote:

http://www.doodle.ch/participation.html?pollId=vyb92ak9gguddpvk

--Larry

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cz-biology-bounces at mail.citizendium.org 
> [mailto:cz-biology-bounces at mail.citizendium.org] On Behalf Of Marielle
> Sent: Monday, June 09, 2008 12:03 PM
> To: Biology Workgroup List
> Subject: Re: [Cz-biology] Giant panda/naming
> 
> 
> I made a list of pros and cons with examples here: 
> http://en.citizendium.org/wiki/CZ:Biology_Workgroup#Naming_convention
> 
> Also, do we really want to have a pure majority vote?  In 
> this instance, some sort of ranked vote might be appropriate, 
> especially as there are so few voters.  With such a small 
> pool of people, the voting outcome has too much randomness to 
> really show what a majority would think.  We should really 
> have statistically significant results to make an official 
> policy- otherwise there's no purpose to voting to begin with. 
>  Also, should we really be able to see the results of the 
> vote before we vote?  Right now, of course, there's no risk 
> of an information cascade, but there are still psychological 
> factors at work.
> 
> 
> 
> On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 10:39 AM, Larry Sanger 
> <sanger at citizendium.org> wrote:
> > An interesting idea approach to the poll:
> >
> > 1. Only common name: "Giant Panda"
> > 2. Only scientific name: "Ailuropoda melanoleuca"
> > 3. Both names, scientific one in parentheses: "Giant Panda 
> (Ailuropoda 
> > melanoleuca)" 4. Both names, common one in parentheses: "Ailuropoda 
> > melanoleuca (Giant Panda)"
> > 5. Other 1 - please give details at talk page
> > 6. Other 2 - please give details at talk page
> > 7. Other 3 - please give details at talk page
> >
> > I'm sure Daniel knows that this does not of course settle all 
> > questions we might have about naming conventions for 
> species, but it 
> > does nicely focus the main debate, it seems to me.
> >
> > I would encourage you all to participate--in the interest of my own 
> > neutrality I won't, except as a "tiebreaker."
> >
> > Direct link to the poll: 
> > http://www.doodle.ch/participation.html?pollId=vyb92ak9gguddpvk
> >
> > --Larry
> >
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: cz-biology-bounces at mail.citizendium.org
> >> [mailto:cz-biology-bounces at mail.citizendium.org] On Behalf 
> Of Daniel 
> >> Mietchen
> >> Sent: Monday, June 09, 2008 3:01 AM
> >> To: Biology Workgroup List
> >> Subject: Re: [Cz-biology] Giant panda/naming
> >>
> >>
> >> Hello together,
> >> I set up a poll for this, which can be reached from 
> >> http://en.citizendium.org/wiki/CZ:Biology_Workgroup#Naming_con
> > vention . Daniel _______________________________________________
> > Cz-biology mailing list
> > Cz-biology at mail.citizendium.org 
> > http://mail.citizendium.org/mailman/listinfo/cz-biology
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Cz-biology mailing list
> > Cz-biology at mail.citizendium.org 
> > http://mail.citizendium.org/mailman/listinfo/cz-biology
> >
> _______________________________________________
> Cz-biology mailing list
> Cz-biology at mail.citizendium.org 
> http://mail.citizendium.org/mailman/listinfo/cz-biology
> 

_______________________________________________
Cz-biology mailing list
Cz-biology at mail.citizendium.org
http://mail.citizendium.org/mailman/listinfo/cz-biology
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: http://mail.citizendium.org/pipermail/cz-biology/attachments/20080609/64c70cd6/attachment.html