[Cz-biology] Giant panda/naming

[Daniel Mietchen]

just noticed that the separation of page name and title is already in
effect with
http://en.citizendium.org/wiki/Special:Wantedpages .
Daniel

On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 9:33 AM, Daniel Mietchen
<daniel.mietchen at googlemail.com> wrote:
> I updated the poll such that "Other 1" now reads
> "Scientific name for page name, common name for article title" (as advocated
> by Chris and in line with Noel's proposal).
> Please update your vote if it is influenced by this new option.
> Thanks,
> Daniel
>
> On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 8:04 PM, Volk, David E. <devolk at utmb.edu> wrote:
>> We had a VERY long running discussion about this awhile back.  Perhaps
>> someone can find that and make a link to it.
>> As I recall, the trouble with common names is that multiple species can have
>> the same common name, so that the option
>> using only the common name is automatically not feasible.
>>
>> dave
>>
>> David E. Volk, Ph.D.
>> Research Scientist
>> Department of Biochemistry and Molecular Biology
>> Sealy Center for Structural Biology and Molecular  Biophysics
>> University of Texas Medical Branch
>> Galveston, TX 77555-1157
>> Office: 409-747-6803
>> Cell:    409-789-8588
>> email: devolk at utmb.edu
>>
>> "Science is the organized skepticism in the reliability of expert opinion."
>>         Richard Feynman
>>
>>
>> "All truth passes through three stages:
>>                    First, it is ridiculed.
>>       Second, it is violently opposed.
>> Third, it is accepted as being self-evident"
>>      Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)
>> ________________________________
>> From: Larry Sanger
>> Sent: Mon 6/9/2008 11:14 AM
>> To: 'Biology Workgroup List'
>> Subject: Re: [Cz-biology] Giant panda/naming
>>
>> Well, only three people have voted so far.  Make up your mind before you
>> look at the voting page, please.  Unless there is a reasonably significant
>> percentage of the Biology Workgroup voting, I would not consider the results
>> legitimate.
>>
>> Indeed, probably we should weight biology editors' votes appropriately.
>>
>> But the important thing now is to vote:
>>
>> http://www.doodle.ch/participation.html?pollId=vyb92ak9gguddpvk
>>
>> --Larry
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: cz-biology-bounces at mail.citizendium.org
>>> [mailto:cz-biology-bounces at mail.citizendium.org] On Behalf Of Marielle
>>> Sent: Monday, June 09, 2008 12:03 PM
>>> To: Biology Workgroup List
>>> Subject: Re: [Cz-biology] Giant panda/naming
>>>
>>>
>>> I made a list of pros and cons with examples here:
>>> http://en.citizendium.org/wiki/CZ:Biology_Workgroup#Naming_convention
>>>
>>> Also, do we really want to have a pure majority vote?  In
>>> this instance, some sort of ranked vote might be appropriate,
>>> especially as there are so few voters.  With such a small
>>> pool of people, the voting outcome has too much randomness to
>>> really show what a majority would think.  We should really
>>> have statistically significant results to make an official
>>> policy- otherwise there's no purpose to voting to begin with.
>>>  Also, should we really be able to see the results of the
>>> vote before we vote?  Right now, of course, there's no risk
>>> of an information cascade, but there are still psychological
>>> factors at work.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 10:39 AM, Larry Sanger
>>> <sanger at citizendium.org> wrote:
>>> > An interesting idea approach to the poll:
>>> >
>>> > 1. Only common name: "Giant Panda"
>>> > 2. Only scientific name: "Ailuropoda melanoleuca"
>>> > 3. Both names, scientific one in parentheses: "Giant Panda
>>> (Ailuropoda
>>> > melanoleuca)" 4. Both names, common one in parentheses: "Ailuropoda
>>> > melanoleuca (Giant Panda)"
>>> > 5. Other 1 - please give details at talk page
>>> > 6. Other 2 - please give details at talk page
>>> > 7. Other 3 - please give details at talk page
>>> >
>>> > I'm sure Daniel knows that this does not of course settle all
>>> > questions we might have about naming conventions for
>>> species, but it
>>> > does nicely focus the main debate, it seems to me.
>>> >
>>> > I would encourage you all to participate--in the interest of my own
>>> > neutrality I won't, except as a "tiebreaker."
>>> >
>>> > Direct link to the poll:
>>> > http://www.doodle.ch/participation.html?pollId=vyb92ak9gguddpvk
>>> >
>>> > --Larry
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >> -----Original Message-----
>>> >> From: cz-biology-bounces at mail.citizendium.org
>>> >> [mailto:cz-biology-bounces at mail.citizendium.org] On Behalf
>>> Of Daniel
>>> >> Mietchen
>>> >> Sent: Monday, June 09, 2008 3:01 AM
>>> >> To: Biology Workgroup List
>>> >> Subject: Re: [Cz-biology] Giant panda/naming
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> Hello together,
>>> >> I set up a poll for this, which can be reached from
>>> >> http://en.citizendium.org/wiki/CZ:Biology_Workgroup#Naming_con
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