[Cz-biology] Giant panda/naming

Daniel Mietchen daniel.mietchen at googlemail.com
Wed Jun 18 02:08:44 CDT 2008


The option Marielle was referring to did *NOT* mean that there would
be no common name in the title -
it just meant that the ADDRESS of the page would have the scientific
name, yet the TITLE the common
one (or one of them):
http://en.citizendium.org/wiki/Ailuropoda_melanoleuca
would thus be entitled *Giant Panda* and perhaps start out as
The '''Giant Panda''' (Ailuropoda melanoleuca) is ...

That would require a technical twist to the article mechanics, as
proposed by Noel some time ago:
http://forum.citizendium.org/index.php/topic,1654.0.html .
Cheers,

Daniel

On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 2:16 AM, David Goodman <dgoodmanny at gmail.com> wrote:
> I agree with John there. I think that is the general view. Even the
> Encyclopedia of Life,  prepared by professional biologists, requiring
> professional qualifications even for contributing a page on a species,
> not just as with us approving it,  uses common names in the headings,
> for example  <http://www.eol.org/taxa/17059662>.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 4:24 PM, John Moffett <john at factinista.org> wrote:
>> Hello all,
>>
>> I agree that the common name has to be in the page title, not just in the
>> article text.
>>
>> So as long as both are in the title, I am in agreement, and the order is not
>> important. I also do feel that Larry is correct that the average person
>> looking for information will want to see the common name in the page title.
>>
>> John
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: cz-biology-bounces at voltaire.citizendium.org
>> [mailto:cz-biology-bounces at voltaire.citizendium.org] On Behalf Of Larry
>> Sanger
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 2:36 PM
>> To: 'Biology Workgroup List'
>> Subject: Re: [Cz-biology] Giant panda/naming
>>
>> P.S. In other words, it is the page title that will be displayed *first* in
>> Google search results.  If that page title does not include a common name,
>> our species articles will receive many fewer hits--period.
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: cz-biology-bounces at mail.citizendium.org
>>> [mailto:cz-biology-bounces at mail.citizendium.org] On Behalf Of Larry
>>> Sanger
>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 2:35 PM
>>> To: 'Biology Workgroup List'
>>> Subject: Re: [Cz-biology] Giant panda/naming
>>>
>>>
>>> > I have become a supporter of the latter.  Having the article under
>>> > the scientific name makes the system bot-friendly.  It also
>>> > eliminates the problem of a common name referring to multiple
>>> > species.  Furthermore, it eliminates the user friendliness problem
>>> > by starting out the article with the common name, which makes it
>>> > clear what the organism is usually called.  It also is a relatively
>>> > clear and easy policy to follow.
>>>
>>> Well, it's not quite so clear as that.  Probably the single most
>>> important reason to include the common name in the article title is
>>> that many people will search for common names of common plants and
>>> animals, and will be entirely put off by any article that does not use
>>> the common name.  THAT, they will think, is a scientific article, not
>>> for me, because I am not a scientist.
>>>
>>> --Larry
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