[Cz-biology] Giant panda/naming

[Larry Sanger]

Thanks for the clarification, Daniel.

--Larry

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cz-biology-bounces at mail.citizendium.org 
> [mailto:cz-biology-bounces at mail.citizendium.org] On Behalf Of 
> Daniel Mietchen
> Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 3:09 AM
> To: Biology Workgroup List
> Subject: Re: [Cz-biology] Giant panda/naming
> 
> 
> The option Marielle was referring to did *NOT* mean that 
> there would be no common name in the title - it just meant 
> that the ADDRESS of the page would have the scientific name, 
> yet the TITLE the common one (or one of them): 
> http://en.citizendium.org/wiki/Ailuropoda_melanoleuca
> would thus be entitled *Giant Panda* and perhaps start out as 
> The '''Giant Panda''' (Ailuropoda melanoleuca) is ...
> 
> That would require a technical twist to the article 
> mechanics, as proposed by Noel some time ago: 
> http://forum.citizendium.org/index.php/topic,1654.0.html . Cheers,
> 
> Daniel
> 
> On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 2:16 AM, David Goodman 
> <dgoodmanny at gmail.com> wrote:
> > I agree with John there. I think that is the general view. Even the 
> > Encyclopedia of Life,  prepared by professional biologists, 
> requiring 
> > professional qualifications even for contributing a page on 
> a species, 
> > not just as with us approving it,  uses common names in the 
> headings, 
> > for example  <http://www.eol.org/taxa/17059662>.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 4:24 PM, John Moffett <john at factinista.org> 
> > wrote:
> >> Hello all,
> >>
> >> I agree that the common name has to be in the page title, 
> not just in 
> >> the article text.
> >>
> >> So as long as both are in the title, I am in agreement, 
> and the order 
> >> is not important. I also do feel that Larry is correct that the 
> >> average person looking for information will want to see the common 
> >> name in the page title.
> >>
> >> John
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: cz-biology-bounces at voltaire.citizendium.org
> >> [mailto:cz-biology-bounces at voltaire.citizendium.org] On Behalf Of 
> >> Larry Sanger
> >> Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 2:36 PM
> >> To: 'Biology Workgroup List'
> >> Subject: Re: [Cz-biology] Giant panda/naming
> >>
> >> P.S. In other words, it is the page title that will be displayed 
> >> *first* in Google search results.  If that page title does not 
> >> include a common name, our species articles will receive 
> many fewer 
> >> hits--period.
> >>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: cz-biology-bounces at mail.citizendium.org
> >>> [mailto:cz-biology-bounces at mail.citizendium.org] On 
> Behalf Of Larry 
> >>> Sanger
> >>> Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 2:35 PM
> >>> To: 'Biology Workgroup List'
> >>> Subject: Re: [Cz-biology] Giant panda/naming
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> > I have become a supporter of the latter.  Having the 
> article under 
> >>> > the scientific name makes the system bot-friendly.  It also 
> >>> > eliminates the problem of a common name referring to multiple 
> >>> > species.  Furthermore, it eliminates the user 
> friendliness problem 
> >>> > by starting out the article with the common name, which 
> makes it 
> >>> > clear what the organism is usually called.  It also is a 
> >>> > relatively clear and easy policy to follow.
> >>>
> >>> Well, it's not quite so clear as that.  Probably the single most 
> >>> important reason to include the common name in the 
> article title is 
> >>> that many people will search for common names of common 
> plants and 
> >>> animals, and will be entirely put off by any article that 
> does not 
> >>> use the common name.  THAT, they will think, is a scientific 
> >>> article, not for me, because I am not a scientist.
> >>>
> >>> --Larry
> >>>
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