[Cz-chemistry] Need help in obtaining a suitable drawing for [[Vacuum Distillation]]

Richard Mayes rtmayes at gmail.com
Wed Feb 13 08:54:43 CST 2008


Milton,

I'll try to send a drawing of our vacuum distillation setup, it's quite
simpler than the Perkin Triangle, but it works.  It may be around Monday or
Tuesday before I can get it out though.

Richard


On Feb 12, 2008 4:10 PM, mbeychok <mbeychok at cox.net> wrote:

>  Richard:
>
> Thanks for your response. I assume that where you said *"When we do our
> air sensitive distillations, we use a modified Vigreux column coupled to a
> standard jacketed condensation tube and have nitrogen purges on everything
> while we distill the solution into a Schlenk-type vessel with a stopcock",
> *that it is not a vacuum distillation which is the subject of my "Vacuum
> distillation" article in CZ. Is that correct?
>
> However, I also assume that where you said "*Our other method, in the case
> of high boilers, is to use a short-path distillation head that we can hook
> up to a vacuum pump, similar to that found on the ChemGlass website (part #
> CG-1237).  The other distillation head on the ChemGlass website (CG-1233)
> will also assist in air sensitive distillations", *that it is definitely a
> vacuum distillation. In that case,  I would very much like to get a
> drawing of your setup*.
>
> *If at all possible, the drawing should be in the .png format and about
> the same size as that PerkinsTriangle drawing in Wikipedia at
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Perkin_triangle_distillation_apparatus.png. As you can see it is about 450 x 650 px and 30 KB. It could even be twice
> that large if need be ... but no more than that.  Just as in that Wikipedia
> drawing, the various parts should be numbered and  you should please name
> each part for me so that I could create a legend (naming each numbered part)
> to be included in the drawing caption (not in the drawing itself).
>
> In my CZ article on "Vacuum distillation", I  will  revise the the "Perkin
> triangle apparatus*" *subsection  and re-title it as well. Would you
> please be so kind as to also:
>
> (1) Suggest a new title for that section.
> (2) Send me about a 2-4 paragraph writeup on your method of distilling air
> sensitive materials. I am a retired chemical engineer,  not a chemist. So
> your writeup will be better than anything I could come up with.
>
> Thanks again,
>
> Milton Beychok
> 1102 Colony Plaza
> Newport Beach, CA 92660, USA
>
> Phone: 949-718-1360
> Web Site: http://www.air-dispersion.com
> =============================================
> *
>
> *Richard Mayes wrote:
>
> The pdf http://www.chem.queensu.ca/courses/06/chem397/ManipAirSens.pdfshows a set-up that achieves the same result of the Perkin Distillation
> Head.  I embarrassingly must admit that I had to look up the drawing you
> cited even though we do air sensitive distillations all the time in our lab
> (mainly metal chlorides and alkyltin compounds).   When we do our air
> sensitive distillations, we use a modified Vigreux column coupled to a
> standard jacketed condensation tube and have nitrogen purges on everything
> while we distill the solution into a Schlenk-type vessel with a stopcock.
> Our other method, in the case of high boilers, is to use a short-path
> distillation head that we can hook up to a vacuum pump, similar to that
> found on the ChemGlass website (part # CG-1237).  The other distillation
> head on the ChemGlass website (CG-1233) will also assist in air sensitive
> distillations.
>
> If you are interested in what we use, I can get you a drawing of our setup
> in a few days.
>
> Richard Mayes
>
> Graduate Research Assistant
> Inorganic Materials & Catalysis
> Barnes Group
> Dept. of Chemistry
> University of Tennessee
> Knoxville, TN 37996
>
> On Feb 12, 2008 2:05 AM, mbeychok <mbeychok at cox.net> wrote:
>
> > Hello all:
> >
> > Yesterday, I created a new CZ article [[Vacuum distillation]]. The
> > article has two main sections: "Vacuum distillation in petroleum refining"
> > and "Laboratory-scale vacuum distillation".
> >
> > The laboratory section has a sub-section describing the use of the
> > "Perkin triangle apparatus" for vacuum distillation of air-sensitive
> > material. That section needs to be enhanced with a drawing of the Perkin
> > triangle apparatus that can be uploaded into CZ. A drawing would be
> > preferable rather than a photo.
> >
> > An example of such a drawing exists in the Wikipedia "Distillation"
> > article but the author of that drawing has declined giving us his real name,
> > so we cannot obtain his drawing from Wikimedia Commons and upload it into
> > CZ.
> >
> > Can any of you provide a similar drawing that we can upload into CZ?
> > Failing that, can any of you provide a good, clear photo of the Perkin
> > triangle apparatus?
> >
> > I would be most appreciative of any help in this matter. Thanks in
> > advance,
> >
> > Milton Beychok
> > 1102 Colony Plaza
> > Newport Beach, CA 92660, USA
> >
> > Phone: 949-718-1360
> > Web Site: http://www.air-dispersion.com
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