[Cz-editcouncil] Article deletion question

Fri Apr 27 06:03:39 CDT 2007

Hello All,

The general rule for peer-reviewed science journals is that a minimum of 2,
and preferably 3 editors from the field review the article, and make 1 of 3
recommendations: accept, accept with modifications, or reject. Reject means
that the article is hopelessly flawed. Accept with modifications means that
there are significant problems or areas that need attention and these issues
need to be pointed out by the editors who review the article. The author is
then given time to make appropriate changes before resubmission. The article
is then re-reviewed by the editors who then give a recommendation to accept
or reject.

Rejected articles are not archived or kept anywhere. But keep in mind that
many very good articles (which were eventually published elsewhere) have
been rejected by this process, which is only as good as the reviewers. 

John M.

-----Original Message-----
From: cz-editcouncil-bounces at voltaire.citizendium.org
[mailto:cz-editcouncil-bounces at voltaire.citizendium.org] On Behalf Of David
Goodman
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 3:54 AM
To: The Citizendium Editorial Council
Subject: Re: [Cz-editcouncil] Article deletion question

As a layman, relying of the format  of the article and the use and nature of
the references as much as the arguments, it seems obvious that the article
is advocacy, rather than encyclopedic--and even by Wikipedia standards would
probably be nominated for deletion as an essay.

Holding it for future work by those qualified seems an obvious temporary
solution. At Wikipedia, any one of a number of people would undoubtedly
start editing to improve it, but in a non-systematic way.
We should wait for people prepared to do it properly.

But it is possible that the author might be prepared to revise the article
in the light of the unanimous criticism that it is receiving, and in all
fairness, that should be tried first. Even if it needs substantial rewriting
after that, there will be a better starting point. And we might get better
future work from the author involved.

DavidGoodman

On 4/27/07, Nguyen Anh (DAM) <Anh.Nguyen at dexia-am.com> wrote:
> Dear All,
>
> As we all know, the difference between Citizendium and Wikipedia is to 
> have a reliable encyclopedia, with an "expert oversight". In this 
> precise case, it seems obvious that the "Binary economics" has its 
> place on Wikipedia, but not here as there is much controversy on that
subject.
>
> I perfectly agreed that as, up to now, there is no large acceptance of 
> that theory in the Economics field, measured by the number of articles 
> published in peer-reviewed journals.  Futhermore, Citizendium should 
> not be the place where everyone is coming with his own theory, but the 
> place where al accepted theory is presented.
>
> So, I do agree that this article should be kept in archives and not be 
> seen by all users. Someone belonging to the Econ Group (I am from... 
> But more from the finance side.. sorry) should try to write a short 
> and neutral article on it.
>
> Anh
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cz-editcouncil-bounces at mail.citizendium.org
> [mailto:cz-editcouncil-bounces at mail.citizendium.org] On Behalf Of 
> Larry Sanger
> Sent: 27 April 2007 00:33
> To: 'The Citizendium Editorial Council'
> Subject: [Cz-editcouncil] Article deletion question
>
> Dear Editorial Council members,
>
> I'm going to try to have something like a kick-off mail in your box 
> this evening, but I wanted to get your input on something in the meantime.
>
> We have a shortage of active Economics editors.  I asked several who 
> are involved to comment on this article, which struck me as being 
> quite
> biased:
>
> http://en.citizendium.org/wiki/Binary_economics
>
> And we got a comment back, here:
>
> http://en.citizendium.org/wiki/Talk:Binary_economics#Editorial_Opinion
>
> The opinion seems to me to entail that we should delete the article.  
> In particular, two items:
>
> (1) This comment is most important: "I do not think the current entry 
> can be revised to make a suitable entry for Citizendium."
>
> (2) The article "reads as promotional literature."
>
> Our rules at present state (see
> http://en.citizendium.org/wiki/CZ:Article_Deletion_Policy) that the 
> first two comments in particular are grounds for an *editor* to make a 
> decision to delete an article outright.
>
> So I would like to ask your opinion about a question of *process* here:
> should we, in the absence of any other active economics editor 
> weighing in on the matter, rely on the opinion of a single editor to 
> delete an article on the above grounds?
>
> --Larry
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