[Cz-editcouncil] Resolution 0003: in other words...

[M. BALDWIN-EDWARDS]

Dear Larry:

Whereas I agree that recruitment of contributors and materials is a good 
idea, I have several serious reservations about this proposal.

First, it seems to give carte blanche powers. What exactly will the 
coordinator be empowered to do? and what will be the nature of 
collaborations with professors and students?

Secondly, my own experience as Founding Editor of an academic journal was 
that initially we did not have a big enough reputation to attract enough 
high-quality articles -- even though all major libraries of the world 
stocked my journal even before it appeared. My co-editor and I recruited 
articles, and we got into a terrible fight which nearly destroyed the 
journal: certainly we both left it. This was because he insisted on 
publishing second-rate papers [which frequently I had to rewrite, not merely 
edit] allegedly to fill the journal, but in reality for personal gain. The 
journal had become a career-advancing game, with favours handed out 
[guaranteed publication] and returned favours were clearly visible to me.

I am concerned that you are asking the Editorial Council to cede control 
over the policy about content, without our being clear about the nature of 
this new structure. This is not to cast doubt on the intentions or abilities 
of the personnel, but I really think some limits and rules are needed. As 
things stand, I am unlikely to support the resolution.

Best wishes

Martin
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Larry Sanger" <sanger at citizendium.org>
To: "'The Citizendium Editorial Council'" 
<cz-editcouncil at mail.citizendium.org>
Sent: Friday, June 01, 2007 11:30 PM
Subject: [Cz-editcouncil] Resolution 0003: in other words...


> More briefly:
>
> Please send me comments, *privately*, on
>
> http://en.citizendium.org/wiki/CZ:Editorial_Council_Resolution_0003
>
> before next Wednesday.
>
> The Chair
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: cz-editcouncil-bounces at mail.citizendium.org
>> [mailto:cz-editcouncil-bounces at mail.citizendium.org] On
>> Behalf Of Larry Sanger
>> Sent: Friday, June 01, 2007 2:32 PM
>> To: 'The Citizendium Editorial Council'
>> Subject: [Cz-editcouncil] Resolution 0003: initial call for
>> private comment
>> Importance: High
>>
>>
>> Dear Council Members,
>>
>> The Chair observes that Resolution 0003
>>
>> http://en.citizendium.org/wiki/CZ:Editorial_Council_Resolution_0003
>>
>> has a primary sponsor and two co-sponsors, and it appears to
>> be in order. The resolution would establish (or recommend the
>> establishment of) an "Eduzendium" project, with Dr. Sorin
>> Matei as its coordinator.
>>
>> There is no reason to leave the resolution in the queue, and
>> thus it is hereby moved to discussion.
>>
>> --------
>>
>> PRIVATE COMMENT PERIOD: According to the rules, the next step
>> is a private comment period (to be followed later by a public
>> comment period), which will last 48 hours of non-weekend
>> time, i.e., it will conclude at Wednesday at 4 PM UTC (11 AM EST).
>>
>> If you would like more time, make a suggestion (or motion) to
>> that effect (on this list) and the Chair might allow everyone
>> more time.  The Chair would like to avoid a time-consuming
>> vote on such motions.
>>
>> Please limit your comments to 600 words.  If you want more
>> space, make a motion to that effect (on this list) and I
>> might be persuaded to give everyone more space.  Again, the
>> Chair would like to avoid a vote on such motions.
>>
>> DUE DATE: Member comments are due, privately, to the Chair
>> (in lieu of an official Secretary), Wednesday, June 6, 4 PM
>> UTC (11 AM EST).  DO NOT SEND YOUR COMMENT TO THE LIST!  The
>> Chair will post any comments received, all at once, at that time.
>>
>> UNTIL THAT DEADLINE, "OFFICIAL" COUNCIL DISCUSSION OF THE
>> MERITS OF THE RESOLUTION ON THE LIST, ON THE WIKI, OR ON THE
>> FORUMS IS FORBIDDEN.
>>
>> Once your comments are posted on this list tomorrow, as the
>> rules state, we will be open for public debate of three
>> kinds: (1) brief position statements, all on a single wiki
>> page; (2) discussion on the Forum; and (3) longer
>> supplementary statements from individuals, posted one
>> statement to a page on the wiki.
>>
>> You will be able to use any comment you submit during the
>> initial comment period as your position statement, if you wish.
>>
>> --------
>>
>> If there is anyone on the list who would do the favor of
>> updating these wiki pages with info about this call for
>> private comment, according to the pattern I've laid down, the
>> Chair certainly would appreciate it (and the table and the
>> lamp would be grateful too!):
>>
>> http://en.citizendium.org/wiki/CZ:Editorial_Council_Log
>> http://en.citizendium.org/wiki/CZ:Editorial_Council#Council_Log
>> http://en.citizendium.org/wiki/CZ:Editorial_Council_Resolution_0003
>>
>> The Chair
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