[Cz-editcouncil] Resolution 0001: motion to amend

[Andrew N. Carpenter]

Larry, I'll second your amendment. (As a matter of process, does a reply to
the list suffice?)

All the best,

Andy.


On 5/9/07, Larry Sanger <sanger at citizendium.org> wrote:
>
> Dear Council Members,
>
> I have three items here: (1) I am moving to amend Resolution 0001 by
> replacing it with Amendment 1 (http://tinyurl.com/2fh8rn); (2) I'm calling
> for a second (anybody?); (3) if there are no objections, I propose to use
> 72
> hours to debate the motion to amend (bear in mind, I'm talking about the
> motion to AMEND, not the motion to actually adopt the resolution itself);
> and (4) I want to ask your indulgence in including discussion of edits to
> Amendment 1 with the discussion of Amendment 1 itself.
>
> ===========================
> (1) Motion to amend
>
> I move to amend Resolution 0001 by replacing it with Amendment 1:
> http://tinyurl.com/2fh8rn <--PLEASE LOOK AT THAT ONE
>
> If you would like to view all the differences at once between the
> originally
> submitted resolution and this GREATLY EXPANDED version, see this URL:
> http://tinyurl.com/3bfs4v  If you want to view what edits I made serially,
> I
> recommend starting with this page: http://tinyurl.com/2lzvz2 and then
> repeatedly pressing the "Next diff -->" link, at the top of the right-hand
> column.  (Could be fun.)
>
> I've made MANY changes and additions.  Here are the most significant:
>
>         * A Secretary position is created, who is chair of a Rules
> Committee, which helps keep the process moving along.
>         * Made an "Outline of the process."
>         * Clarified what Chair actions are, that they can be overridden by
> a
> majority vote, and that the Chair should solicit advice from the Rules
> Committee and the Council as a whole.
>         * Created a Council Log:
> http://en.citizendium.org/wiki/CZ:Editorial_Council_Log
>         * Allowed a motion to vote on the issue of purview; allowed the
> ed-in-chief and chief constable both the right to make this motion
> (although
> not to vote).
>         * Clarified that the minimum times for discussion and voting are,
> indeed, *minimums*.
>         * Specified that the Chair is expected not to discuss or vote, or,
> if he/she does, that the Secretary steps in to manage the resolution in
> question.
>         * Greatly expanded the account of various motions, including the
> motion to amend.
>         * Created a (hopefully helpful) Table of Motions.
>
> Here is a more exhaustive list of changes: http://tinyurl.com/34dt56  I
> believe I addressed virtually every single one of the concerns anybody
> expressed.  It was a lot of work!
>
> ===========================
> (2) Second?
>
> The rules state that for a motion to carry, I need a second.  Will anyone
> second my motion to amend Resolution 0001 per Amendment 1
> (http://tinyurl.com/2fh8rn) ?
>
> ===========================
> (3) 72 hours to debate on the motion to amend
>
> If there are no objections, I propose to use 72 hours (three days) to
> debate
> the motion to amend--i.e., to debate the language of Amendment 1 itself
> (http://tinyurl.com/2fh8rn).  Debate, we'll say, begins officially at 11
> PM
> UTC Wednesday, and to use up 72 hours of NON-WEEKEND time, the debate will
> close Wednesday at 9 AM UTC.  But since that's the middle of the night for
> me, we will close debate Wednesday at 3 PM UTC (10 AM Eastern).
>
> Why so long?  I think it will be easier to address any further concerns
> you
> might have as we debate the amendment, than it would be *first* to accept
> this amendment and *then* to make further amendments (each of which
> theoretically requires discussion and voting) to take care of your
> concerns.
>
> NOTE: according to the rules, you can use this list to debate motions
> (just
> not the resolution itself).  Here is what the rules say:
>
> In order to expedite business, discussion of motions may take place on the
> mailing list immediately after the motion is made. No one should post more
> than two messages, each limited to 350 words, about any motion, although
> any
> Member may post a link to a longer discussion elsewhere. Members are
> encouraged, but are not obligated, to read discussions of motions posted
> elsewhere.
>
> This means that you may make exactly two brief statements on this list
> about
> the motion to amend.  If you want to make any *further* discussion of it,
> please do so on the Forums.
>
> ===========================
> (4) Request to fold discussion of edits to Amendment 1 in with discussion
> of
> Amendment 1 itself
>
> One last item.  I imagine I will be making some further edits, in
> accordance
> with your feedback.  I will exhaustively report whatever FURTHER edits I
> happen to make, if any.  Unless there is any objection, I want the Council
> to consider discussion of Amendment 1 *also* to count as discussion of any
> *further edits* to Amendment 1.  I will make my report of edits I've made
> *at least* 24 hours before the close of discussion.
>
> If there are any last-minute edits, I'll give you *at least* 24 hours to
> react to them before voting on the motion to amend.  And bear in
> mind...we're not even talking about voting on the resolution itself yet.
>
> --Larry
>
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