[Cz-editcouncil] Set up new inactive editor categories?

Richard Jensen rjensen at uic.edu
Mon Jun 30 13:49:31 CDT 2008


No I strongly disagree

we have to think of the long term here and the international image of CZ
the editors add prestige and indicate a level of breadth and acceptance that
validates CZ, whether or not they "edit" specific articles.

Richard Jensen

At 11:22 AM 6/30/2008, you wrote:
>This is fine, but all I'm asking is whether the Editorial Council can agree
>to any such policy without making a resolution out of it.
>
>A precisely appropriate place to discuss the details of the policy, *if* the
>Editorial Council can approve it "by acclamation," would be
>Citizendium-Editors
>(https://lists.purdue.edu/mailman/listinfo/citizendium-editors), which
>agreed last year to become a discussion list as well as an announcement
>list.
>
>--Larry
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: cz-editcouncil-bounces at mail.citizendium.org
> > [mailto:cz-editcouncil-bounces at mail.citizendium.org] On
> > Behalf Of Volk, David E.
> > Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 2:09 PM
> > To: The Citizendium Editorial Council
> > Subject: Re: [Cz-editcouncil] Set up new inactive editor categories?
> >
> >
> > In general I agree, but perhaps there should be a
> > contribution benchmark and once an editor has reached that
> > level, the editor would not be put on the "Inactive" list.
> > For example, say someone wrote 400 articles and 10,000 edits,
> > and goes on a six month African safari, or has an illness, or
> > some such thing, it seems unfair to mark him/her as Inactive.
> >  Writing that many articles ought to be good a year or more.
> > The problem may be more of dividing them into very active,
> > somewhat active and never been active.  I think the last
> > category is what you are really describing.
> >
> >
> > ________________________________________
> > From: cz-editcouncil-bounces at mail.citizendium.org
> > [cz-editcouncil-bounces at mail.citizendium.org] On Behalf Of
> > Larry Sanger [sanger at citizendium.org]
> > Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 12:44 PM
> > To: cz-editcouncil at citizendium.org
> > Subject: [Cz-editcouncil] Set up new inactive editor categories?
> >
> > All,
> >
> > It has always bothered me that we list as "editors" people
> > who might not ever have touched the wiki.  This is not "truth
> > in advertising."  It also makes the honor of CZ editorship,
> > which ought to count for something, rather too easy.  On the
> > one hand, we want the *rights* to editorship to be as easy as
> > possible, for qualified people.  On the other hand, we want
> > the *honor* of editorship something that has to be earned.
> > Well, we can make good on this distinction: we simply make a
> > new category of editor: Inactive XYZ Editors, like Inactive
> > Philosophy Editors.  Then we add the word "Inactive" to the
> > editor tags of people who have (according to some measure)
> > been inactive.  We can also add a link from the XYZ Editors
> > category page to the Inactive XYZ Editors category page.
> >
> > I suspect that, because academics and professionals generally
> > are motivated by honors, to a great extent, actually
> > requiring some activity of editors in order to be prominently
> > listed would help *somewhat* to motivate editors to get
> > involved.  To this end, I propose not only that we create the
> > above "Inactive" categories, but that we tell editors that we
> > are going to do so, and that we specifically request that
> > they not list CZ editorship on their CVs unless they are
> > active.  Simply saying that should impress two important
> > facts on editors: first, CZ editorship is an honor (that is
> > appropriate to put on a CV); second, you are going to have to
> > contribute your labor to the project if you want the honor of
> > editorship.
> >
> > Therefore, I propose the following language:
> >
> > ============
> >
> > You may count yourself an active Citizendium Editor if you
> > have edited CZ in the previous three months.  If you have not
> > edited the wiki in that time, then any Citizen may change
> > your various "CZ Editor" categories to "Inactive CZ Editor"
> > categories.  For instance, the category on your user page
> > might be changed from [[Category:Chemistry Editors]] to
> > [[Category:Inactive Chemistry Editors]].
> >
> > You may delete the word "Inactive" yourself, once you have
> > edited the wiki. (For simplicity, editing the wiki once will suffice.)
> >
> > ============
> >
> > I've run this by the Executive Committee and they are all
> > agreed that this is a good idea.  So I am thinking that we
> > could pass it "by acclamation." In other words--are there any
> > objections to this policy?  If there are, let me know, and
> > I'll make a proper resolution out of it.
> >
> > --Larry
> >
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