[Cz-editcouncil] Set up new inactive editor categories?

[Larry Sanger]

All right then, no further comments are needed.  Since a Council member
objects, we must take a vote.

I'll make a resolution.

--Larry

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cz-editcouncil-bounces at mail.citizendium.org 
> [mailto:cz-editcouncil-bounces at mail.citizendium.org] On 
> Behalf Of Richard Jensen
> Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 2:50 PM
> To: The Citizendium Editorial Council
> Subject: Re: [Cz-editcouncil] Set up new inactive editor categories?
> 
> 
> No I strongly disagree
> 
> we have to think of the long term here and the international 
> image of CZ the editors add prestige and indicate a level of 
> breadth and acceptance that validates CZ, whether or not they 
> "edit" specific articles.
> 
> Richard Jensen
> 
> At 11:22 AM 6/30/2008, you wrote:
> >This is fine, but all I'm asking is whether the Editorial 
> Council can 
> >agree to any such policy without making a resolution out of it.
> >
> >A precisely appropriate place to discuss the details of the policy, 
> >*if* the Editorial Council can approve it "by acclamation," would be 
> >Citizendium-Editors 
> >(https://lists.purdue.edu/mailman/listinfo/citizendium-editor
> s), which 
> >agreed last year to become a discussion list as well as an 
> announcement 
> >list.
> >
> >--Larry
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: cz-editcouncil-bounces at mail.citizendium.org
> > > [mailto:cz-editcouncil-bounces at mail.citizendium.org] On Behalf Of 
> > > Volk, David E.
> > > Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 2:09 PM
> > > To: The Citizendium Editorial Council
> > > Subject: Re: [Cz-editcouncil] Set up new inactive editor 
> categories?
> > >
> > >
> > > In general I agree, but perhaps there should be a contribution 
> > > benchmark and once an editor has reached that level, the editor 
> > > would not be put on the "Inactive" list. For example, say someone 
> > > wrote 400 articles and 10,000 edits, and goes on a six 
> month African 
> > > safari, or has an illness, or some such thing, it seems unfair to 
> > > mark him/her as Inactive.  Writing that many articles ought to be 
> > > good a year or more. The problem may be more of dividing 
> them into 
> > > very active, somewhat active and never been active.  I think the 
> > > last category is what you are really describing.
> > >
> > >
> > > ________________________________________
> > > From: cz-editcouncil-bounces at mail.citizendium.org
> > > [cz-editcouncil-bounces at mail.citizendium.org] On Behalf Of Larry 
> > > Sanger [sanger at citizendium.org]
> > > Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 12:44 PM
> > > To: cz-editcouncil at citizendium.org
> > > Subject: [Cz-editcouncil] Set up new inactive editor categories?
> > >
> > > All,
> > >
> > > It has always bothered me that we list as "editors" 
> people who might 
> > > not ever have touched the wiki.  This is not "truth in 
> advertising."  
> > > It also makes the honor of CZ editorship, which ought to 
> count for 
> > > something, rather too easy.  On the one hand, we want the 
> *rights* 
> > > to editorship to be as easy as possible, for qualified 
> people.  On 
> > > the other hand, we want the *honor* of editorship 
> something that has 
> > > to be earned. Well, we can make good on this distinction: 
> we simply 
> > > make a new category of editor: Inactive XYZ Editors, like Inactive
> > > Philosophy Editors.  Then we add the word "Inactive" to the
> > > editor tags of people who have (according to some measure)
> > > been inactive.  We can also add a link from the XYZ Editors
> > > category page to the Inactive XYZ Editors category page.
> > >
> > > I suspect that, because academics and professionals generally are 
> > > motivated by honors, to a great extent, actually requiring some 
> > > activity of editors in order to be prominently listed would help 
> > > *somewhat* to motivate editors to get involved.  To this end, I 
> > > propose not only that we create the above "Inactive" 
> categories, but 
> > > that we tell editors that we are going to do so, and that we 
> > > specifically request that they not list CZ editorship on 
> their CVs 
> > > unless they are active.  Simply saying that should impress two 
> > > important facts on editors: first, CZ editorship is an 
> honor (that 
> > > is appropriate to put on a CV); second, you are going to have to
> > > contribute your labor to the project if you want the honor of
> > > editorship.
> > >
> > > Therefore, I propose the following language:
> > >
> > > ============
> > >
> > > You may count yourself an active Citizendium Editor if you have 
> > > edited CZ in the previous three months.  If you have not 
> edited the 
> > > wiki in that time, then any Citizen may change your various "CZ 
> > > Editor" categories to "Inactive CZ Editor" categories.  For 
> > > instance, the category on your user page might be changed from 
> > > [[Category:Chemistry Editors]] to [[Category:Inactive Chemistry 
> > > Editors]].
> > >
> > > You may delete the word "Inactive" yourself, once you have edited 
> > > the wiki. (For simplicity, editing the wiki once will suffice.)
> > >
> > > ============
> > >
> > > I've run this by the Executive Committee and they are all agreed 
> > > that this is a good idea.  So I am thinking that we could pass it 
> > > "by acclamation." In other words--are there any 
> objections to this 
> > > policy?  If there are, let me know, and I'll make a proper 
> > > resolution out of it.
> > >
> > > --Larry
> > >
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