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::Egads!  It seems like [[History of (thing)]], and [[Place, history]]. --[[User:Robert W King|Robert W King]] 14:16, 6 February 2008 (CST)
::Egads!  It seems like [[History of (thing)]], and [[Place, history]]. --[[User:Robert W King|Robert W King]] 14:16, 6 February 2008 (CST)
: See also [[Demography of Bhutan]] and [[Culture of Japan]] --[[User:Christian Liem|Christian Liem]] 14:19, 6 February 2008 (CST)
: See also [[Demography of Bhutan]] and [[Culture of Japan]] --[[User:Christian Liem|Christian Liem]] 14:19, 6 February 2008 (CST)
:: This is something that has been discussed before [http://en.citizendium.org/wiki/CZ:History_Workgroup#Naming_convention:_need_a_decision] but I am unaware of a formal policy being adapted as of yet.  The reasoning behind France, history as opposed to History of France is that 1) the keyword people are looking for would be France, thus we should list it first and 2) the articles will be organized in the system by topic, ie (France, geography;France, culture;France, history).  I personally think this makes sense, with of course redirects for the most common method of searching "history of france". --[[User:Todd Coles|Todd Coles]] 14:26, 6 February 2008 (CST)

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Nice start! this will be a major article. Richard Jensen 17:08, 11 December 2007 (CST)

I'm thinking maybe a shortened rundown of the Third Republic is needed, and the longer version should become its own article. What do you think? Denis Cavanagh 09:46, 16 December 2007 (CST)

I agree. I think we should write everything here first, then spin off speratae articles, then shorten the treatment here. The first goal is to get a full history of France without worrying that it is too long. Richard Jensen 16:19, 16 December 2007 (CST)

Just added a little on the effects of WWI and the early 1920s. Chronologically working my way to 1940 :-) I bypassed the Treaty of Versailled because that in itself is a rather large section. I'll try and get back to it at some stage. Denis Cavanagh 08:21, 31 January 2008 (CST)

good work--keep plugging away! Richard Jensen 08:24, 31 January 2008 (CST)

Don't move

At least leave a message on the talk page before doing something as rash as that. Personally I don't mind if its called 'History of France' but Richard Jensen believes France, history (Corresponding with other general history articles) works better, and frankly, I'm willing to accept the opinion of a retired history professor over mine (A Second Year history student) Denis Cavanagh 08:58, 6 February 2008 (CST)

I agree that there should be a name convention for Citizendium articles. Some of the history articles here are named like Britain, history and France, history, but most are named like History of astronomy. We should take just one standard and stick with it. Has this ever been discussed elsewhere? I think we should take the example of History of astronomy because Astronomy, history could result in ambiguity. For example, should the article about the history of architecture in Europe be named Architecture, Europe, history or Europe, architecture, history? Why should we write the title like that, when we could have a normal sentence like History of European architecture? Just because someone is a professor doesn't mean he is infallible. Always take everything with a grain of salt. Here's some examples of the history articles on Citizendium:
Egads! It seems like History of (thing), and Place, history. --Robert W King 14:16, 6 February 2008 (CST)
See also Demography of Bhutan and Culture of Japan --Christian Liem 14:19, 6 February 2008 (CST)
This is something that has been discussed before [1] but I am unaware of a formal policy being adapted as of yet. The reasoning behind France, history as opposed to History of France is that 1) the keyword people are looking for would be France, thus we should list it first and 2) the articles will be organized in the system by topic, ie (France, geography;France, culture;France, history). I personally think this makes sense, with of course redirects for the most common method of searching "history of france". --Todd Coles 14:26, 6 February 2008 (CST)