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imported>Hayford Peirce
("pioneers" means *early* ppl and influences)
imported>Aleta Curry
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"Architects" hmmm...well, I would use in in context.  And I'm still not hip to "googling it" as a solution to anything.  But, moving right along, another solution would be simply to title the section "Science fiction pioneers", which I think would cover more than "science fiction creators", and then subtititle "Cineasts", "Authors", perhaps even "Actors".  What's the word for radio people? [[User:Aleta Curry|Aleta Curry]] 17:09, 22 February 2008 (CST)
"Architects" hmmm...well, I would use in in context.  And I'm still not hip to "googling it" as a solution to anything.  But, moving right along, another solution would be simply to title the section "Science fiction pioneers", which I think would cover more than "science fiction creators", and then subtititle "Cineasts", "Authors", perhaps even "Actors".  What's the word for radio people? [[User:Aleta Curry|Aleta Curry]] 17:09, 22 February 2008 (CST)
:Well, I *did* think for a moment about using "pioneers", as you say, but then decided that Madeleine L'Engle, for instance, is by no means a pioneer. If we use "pioneers", it's gotta be only for people like Verne, Gernback, Wells, Poe, etc. Even St. RAH himself, the god-like [[Robert A. Heinlein]], although certainly a pioneer of *modern* READABLE science fiction, shouldn't be called a pioneer, as that word has very strong connotations that we don't need to google, hehe. "Radiodramatist"? [[User:Hayford Peirce|Hayford Peirce]] 17:18, 22 February 2008 (CST)
:Well, I *did* think for a moment about using "pioneers", as you say, but then decided that Madeleine L'Engle, for instance, is by no means a pioneer. If we use "pioneers", it's gotta be only for people like Verne, Gernback, Wells, Poe, etc. Even St. RAH himself, the god-like [[Robert A. Heinlein]], although certainly a pioneer of *modern* READABLE science fiction, shouldn't be called a pioneer, as that word has very strong connotations that we don't need to google, hehe. "Radiodramatist"? [[User:Hayford Peirce|Hayford Peirce]] 17:18, 22 February 2008 (CST)
::Yeah, good point about "pioneers".  Okay, do we want to separate out "pioneers" and "contributors"?  I thought "contributors" too weak, as we don't want any of tens of thousands of contributors. Where do we place precursors, like Mary Shelley?  Is Frankenstein bona fide science fiction? And on what level "pioneer"?  If you consider that Flash Gordon was how many generations before Star Trek, is Gene Roddwenberry a pioneer?  On the other hand, what he started was ground-breaking in a lot of ways, social commentary, inclusionism, again, not new, but novel in that time, generation and genre.
::As long as I'm making up words anyway, ''radionistas''?
::[[User:Aleta Curry|Aleta Curry]] 17:37, 22 February 2008 (CST)

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"Architects" hmmm...well, I would use in in context. And I'm still not hip to "googling it" as a solution to anything. But, moving right along, another solution would be simply to title the section "Science fiction pioneers", which I think would cover more than "science fiction creators", and then subtititle "Cineasts", "Authors", perhaps even "Actors". What's the word for radio people? Aleta Curry 17:09, 22 February 2008 (CST)

Well, I *did* think for a moment about using "pioneers", as you say, but then decided that Madeleine L'Engle, for instance, is by no means a pioneer. If we use "pioneers", it's gotta be only for people like Verne, Gernback, Wells, Poe, etc. Even St. RAH himself, the god-like Robert A. Heinlein, although certainly a pioneer of *modern* READABLE science fiction, shouldn't be called a pioneer, as that word has very strong connotations that we don't need to google, hehe. "Radiodramatist"? Hayford Peirce 17:18, 22 February 2008 (CST)
Yeah, good point about "pioneers". Okay, do we want to separate out "pioneers" and "contributors"? I thought "contributors" too weak, as we don't want any of tens of thousands of contributors. Where do we place precursors, like Mary Shelley? Is Frankenstein bona fide science fiction? And on what level "pioneer"? If you consider that Flash Gordon was how many generations before Star Trek, is Gene Roddwenberry a pioneer? On the other hand, what he started was ground-breaking in a lot of ways, social commentary, inclusionism, again, not new, but novel in that time, generation and genre.
As long as I'm making up words anyway, radionistas?
Aleta Curry 17:37, 22 February 2008 (CST)