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==CZC Prop==
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[[CZ:Citizendium_Council_proposed_motions#Martin_Wyatt|Good point]].  The charter does not grant the power to "invest".  [[User:Russell D. Jones|Russell D. Jones]] 01:20, 1 October 2013 (UTC) - from the peanut gallery....
[[CZ:Citizendium_Council_proposed_motions#Martin_Wyatt|Good point]].  The charter does not grant the power to "invest".  [[User:Russell D. Jones|Russell D. Jones]] 01:20, 1 October 2013 (UTC) - from the peanut gallery....
==Notes==
À partir de l'exil commence une période de création littéraire qui est considérée comme la plus riche, la plus originale et la plus puissante de l'œuvre de Victor Hugo. C'est alors que naîtront certains de ses plus grands poèmes<ref group=note>''l'Expiation'' dans les ''Châtiments'', ''[[Booz endormi]]'' dans la ''Légende des siècles'', pour ne citer que ces deux exemples.</ref>.
''[[Les Châtiments]]'' sont des vers de combat qui ont pour mission, en 1853, de rendre public le « crime » du « misérable » [[Napoléon III]] : le [[Coup d'État du 2 décembre 1851|coup d'État du 2 décembre]]. Prophète des malheurs qui attendent Napoléon III, exécuteur du neveu honni, Hugo s'y fait cruel, satirique, voire grossier (« pourceau dans le cloaque<ref>Voir ''Les Châtiments'' I-8.</ref> ») pour châtier « le criminel<ref>Lire [http://books.google.com/books?id=Bm3WbzApXDYC&pg=PA225#v=onepage&q=&f=false {{p.|225-227}}] in ''Victor Hugo - His Life and Work'', A. F. Davidson, Wylie Press, 2007.</ref> ». Mais Hugo se fait aussi poète de temps meilleurs comme dans ''Stella'' ; le poète prend alors des tons quasiment religieux. Quant à la forme des ''Châtiments'', elle est d'une extrême richesse puisque Hugo recourt aussi bien à la [[fable]], qu'à l'[[épopée]], à la [[chanson]] ou à l'[[élégie]], etc.
Quelques années plus tard, Hugo déclare, à propos des ''[[Les Contemplations|Contemplations]]'' qui paraissent en 1856 : « Qu'est-ce que ''les Contemplations'' ? – Les mémoires d'une âme<ref>''[[Les Contemplations]]'', Hetzel, 1858 {{vol.|1}}, {{p.|1}}.</ref> ». Apothéose lyrique, marquée par l'exil à Guernesey et la mort (cf. ''Pauca Meae'') de la fille adorée : exil affectif, exil politique : Hugo part à la découverte solitaire du moi et de l'univers. Le poète, tout comme dans ''les Châtiments'', se fait même prophète, voix de l'au-delà, voyant des secrets de la vie après la mort et qui tente de percer les secrets des desseins divins. Mais, dans le même temps, ''les Contemplations'', au lyrisme amoureux et sensuel, contient certains des plus célèbres poèmes inspirés par [[Juliette Drouet]]. ''Les Contemplations'' : œuvre multiforme donc comme il convient aux « mémoires d'une âme<ref group=note>Voir - entre autres - [http://www.cercle-enseignement.com/Ouvrages/Editions-Gallimard/Foliotheque/Les-Contemplations-de-Victor-Hugo-Essai-et-dossier le commentaire] de Ludmila Charles-Wurtz sur le site Gallimard. Extrait : « ''Les Contemplations'' sont le chef-d'œuvre de la poésie lyrique de Hugo, parce que le recueil se donne à lire comme une autobiographie universelle. C'est une œuvre d'exil - écrite en exil, mais aussi produite par l'exil. Cet exil est d'abord politique ; il est aussi intérieur. À la catastrophe du coup d'État, Hugo associe la mort de sa fille : le proscrit qui parle dans Les Contemplations est exilé hors de son pays et hors de lui-même, si bien que chaque lecteur peut s'identifier à lui. »</ref> ».
Enfin, ''[[la Légende des siècles]]'', son chef-d'œuvre, synthétise l'histoire du monde en une grande épopée parue en 1859 ; « L'homme montant des ténèbres à l'Idéal<ref>''[[La Légende des siècles]]'', Préface.</ref>{{,}}<ref>{{fr}} {{Lien web |url=http://www.bookrags.com/ebooks/12137/19.html |titre=La Légende des Siècles eBook|site=www.bookrags.com |consulté le=26 septembre 2010.}}</ref> », c'est-à-dire la lente et douloureuse ascension de l'humanité vers le Progrès et la Lumière<ref>{{fr}} {{Lien web |url=http://books.google.fr/books?id=7D7g1_SMcQ4C&pg=PA98&lpg=PA98&dq=%C2%AB+L%27homme+montant+des+t%C3%A9n%C3%A8bres+%C3%A0+l%27Id%C3%A9al+%C2%BB&source=bl&ots=wwNcg3XjML&sig=ylctF5hM6ArJA6D4Ts6Reitnikg&hl=fr&ei=xoGfTK-EAtW74AbJl5m2Dg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=4&ved=0CD0Q6AEwAw#v=onepage&q=%C2%AB%20L%27homme%20montant%20des%20t%C3%A9n%C3%A8bres%20%C3%A0%20l%27Id%C3%A9al%20%C2%BB&f=false |titre=Fortunes de Victor Hugo : actes du colloque organisé à la maison franco … Par Naoki Inagaki… |site=books.google.fr |consulté le=26 septembre 2010.}}</ref>.

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Pompeii

Thanks for correcting the Pompeii article. I'm hoping to add a few more paragraphs, would you be interested in proofreading it once I'm done? Richard Nevell 20:20, 23 October 2012 (UTC)

That's much appreciated. I sometimes find I read what I meant to write rather than what's actually there. I'll let you know when it's in a fit state (more or less). Richard Nevell 17:58, 24 October 2012 (UTC)

Hi Martin, the Pompeii article's expanded a bit and is now up for approval. I've gone through myself to iron out any glaring mistakes, and I'd really appreciate another pair of eyes if you've got time. Thanks, Richard Nevell 22:23, 6 November 2012 (UTC)

December 2012 elections

Would you be interested in being an author member of the Editorial Council? You can say no, of course, but so far we've only two nominees for the council, and they're both editors.-Derek Hodges 07:30, 4 December 2012 (UTC)

CZ:Featured article

Hi Martin, I noticed your message at CZ:Featured article. What Johan Forberg was referring to was that if you update what appears on the welcome page, the main article won't be updated unless you make an edit there too. I've looked over what happened with the Robert Burns article and the summary that appeared on the welcome page never got updated, so it appeared as Chubnum first put it up there [1]. What you did was update the article itself, so the article still appears as you intended.

The important point is that if you want the article to reflect what appears on the welcome page, you need to copy and paste the edits. I think you're right that this needs to be more prominent, the question is where to put the notice? Richard Nevell 20:47, 20 February 2013 (UTC)

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Martin, on behalf of Citizendium, I want to thank you for your continuing support of the project, through the many new articles you started and the regular monetary donations you have made.

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Thank you for accepting my nomination. I realise that you did so reluctantly, but I can say having previously occupied the seat that it doesn't have to take up much of your time. John Stephenson 12:59, 23 July 2013 (UTC)

CZC Prop

Good point. The charter does not grant the power to "invest". Russell D. Jones 01:20, 1 October 2013 (UTC) - from the peanut gallery....

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