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There once was a time when people would fight to the death before deleting anything.  I now see the whole purpose of the wiki differently; no longer as competing directing with Wikipedia, but acting as a useful supplement to do the kinds of articles that the anonymous crowd-sourcing in Wikipedia tends to impede.[[User:Pat Palmer|Pat Palmer]] ([[User talk:Pat Palmer|talk]]) 18:41, 7 February 2021 (UTC)
There once was a time when people would fight to the death before deleting anything.  I now see the whole purpose of the wiki differently; no longer as competing directing with Wikipedia, but acting as a useful supplement to do the kinds of articles that the anonymous crowd-sourcing in Wikipedia tends to impede.[[User:Pat Palmer|Pat Palmer]] ([[User talk:Pat Palmer|talk]]) 18:41, 7 February 2021 (UTC)
:The citable versions that stick in my mind are [[History of agriculture]], [[North-west Passage]], and [[Scarborough Castle]] .  The "History of agriculture" is actually a history of European and American agriculture, which contains some obvious omissions.  I corrected some omissions in the last two amendments made to the non-citable article.  The North-west Passage has a statement about the end of Elizabethan exploration which is frankly wrong.  It, and another fault, are corrected in the last two amendments I made to the non-citable article.  In Scarborough Castle, which is otherwise a very good article, Richard has made the common mistake of referring to Pariamentary forces as "loyal to Oliver Cromwell" in 1642, when at that time Oliver had a largely local reputation (and was nowhere near the scene of action). I appear not to have corrected this, when I should have. I think there were others, but all observations were put into storage somewhere, because the exercise of reviewing the citable articles did not proceed.[[User:Martin Wyatt|Martin Wyatt]] ([[User talk:Martin Wyatt|talk]]) 20:08, 7 February 2021 (UTC)
:The citable versions that stick in my mind are [[History of agriculture]], [[North-west Passage]], and [[Scarborough Castle]] .  The "History of agriculture" is actually a history of European and American agriculture, which contains some obvious omissions.  I corrected some omissions in the last two amendments made to the non-citable article.  The North-west Passage has a statement about the end of Elizabethan exploration which is frankly wrong.  It, and another fault, are corrected in the last two amendments I made to the non-citable article.  In Scarborough Castle, which is otherwise a very good article, Richard has made the common mistake of referring to Pariamentary forces as "loyal to Oliver Cromwell" in 1642, when at that time Oliver had a largely local reputation (and was nowhere near the scene of action). I appear not to have corrected this, when I should have. I think there were others, but all observations were put into storage somewhere, because the exercise of reviewing the citable articles did not proceed.[[User:Martin Wyatt|Martin Wyatt]] ([[User talk:Martin Wyatt|talk]]) 20:08, 7 February 2021 (UTC)
::Martin, Thanks for your comments.  John has removed the Citable versions of [[History of agriculture]] and [[North-west Passage]], but not yet for [[Scarborough Castle]].  [[User:John_Stephenson]] said that he wrote some of that and he wonders if there is a misunderstanding (did not say that Cromwell was anywhere near the castle, for example; there is a hill called Oliver's Mount, but he was never there).  I have not had time to review that article myself and know less that nothing about the topic.  So for that one, feel free to go to the article Talk page and make suggestions for John to look at.  And, do call any other Citable articles to our attention that have errors and need to be undone, or other things that are within out power to make better. [[User:Pat Palmer|Pat Palmer]] ([[User talk:Pat Palmer|talk]]) 21:19, 15 February 2021 (UTC)

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All the items that were on this page were of merely passing interest and have been removed. --Martin Wyatt (talk) 20:51, 19 August 2016 (UTC)

New book I came across: [1]. Peter Jackson (talk) 12:50, 25 May 2018 (UTC)

Thank you. £75 books are well outside my normal budget, but I may be able to find a way of getting hold of it. --Martin Wyatt (talk) 15:54, 25 May 2018 (UTC)

Shutting down CZ? Please look at the following discussion and give us your input

http://en.citizendium.org/wiki/Forum_Talk:Technical_Issues#Any_further_thoughts.3F thanks! Hayford, Treasurer Hayford Peirce (talk) 16:10, 21 June 2020 (UTC)

Planning/advisory panel

Hi there, We're putting together a non-public Google group where some of us can brainstorm about how this wiki might develop in the future. I was hoping you'd be willing to join the group and advise. If you are, please email me at pgpalmer A T gmail so that I can add or invite you to the group (CZ-Advisory Panel).Pat Palmer (talk) 01:00, 3 July 2020 (UTC)

Thanks, but we are moving house shortly, which severely limits my availability. --Martin Wyatt (talk) 21:03, 4 July 2020 (UTC)
Good luck moving!Pat Palmer (talk) 22:45, 4 July 2020 (UTC)

Write-a-Thon this weekend

This Sunday, we're getting together on the wiki for the first time in a decade to create and edit articles loosely themed on planets, stars, galaxies and cosmic entities - or anything that involves words like those! For more information, see What's a Write-a-thon? etc. Hope to see you there! John Stephenson (talk) 16:35, 7 January 2021 (UTC)

Martin, you are the very first to kick off the Write-a-Thon; please register yourself under "Keen as Mustard and Jumped the Gun"!? Pat Palmer (talk) 17:03, 9 January 2021 (UTC)
Just coming up to 2 a.m. on 10 Jan in Sydney when I started (I checked). --Martin Wyatt (talk) 19:43, 9 January 2021 (UTC)
Our Write-a-Thon theme this weekend is 'Messaging and Missives'. Please join us! John Stephenson (talk) 22:43, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
As for Sunday 24th, I was going to do something on maypoles, but discovered I did not have enough materials, so could only do a couple of minor alterations to The Ring and the Book. --Martin Wyatt (talk) 19:34, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
Thank you, Martin! I recorded your effort on the party page.Pat Palmer (talk) 01:00, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

Experimenting with the new policy suggestions

Martin, I'm with you on making some of the sub-quality or out-of-date Citable articles into normal articles again, or zapping really bad stubs etc. However, technically, there should be an election before making that official policy. But I've already experimentally revoked a few of the Citable articles in Computers that were terribly out of date and frankly embarrassing. I'm also forging ahead with allowing "lead authors" on articles, and possibly, multiple articles about a given topic (as long as they attempt to maintain an encyclopedic tone and objectivity), something I felt would help reduce conflict going forwards. So basically, I'm considering the policy suggestions as experimental policy for now. If we get more active authors in the future, we can debate it all more. In the meantime, if you see specific articles that you feel should be deleted, please contact either me and/or John S. and we'll look into it. Experimentally.

There once was a time when people would fight to the death before deleting anything. I now see the whole purpose of the wiki differently; no longer as competing directing with Wikipedia, but acting as a useful supplement to do the kinds of articles that the anonymous crowd-sourcing in Wikipedia tends to impede.Pat Palmer (talk) 18:41, 7 February 2021 (UTC)

The citable versions that stick in my mind are History of agriculture, North-west Passage, and Scarborough Castle . The "History of agriculture" is actually a history of European and American agriculture, which contains some obvious omissions. I corrected some omissions in the last two amendments made to the non-citable article. The North-west Passage has a statement about the end of Elizabethan exploration which is frankly wrong. It, and another fault, are corrected in the last two amendments I made to the non-citable article. In Scarborough Castle, which is otherwise a very good article, Richard has made the common mistake of referring to Pariamentary forces as "loyal to Oliver Cromwell" in 1642, when at that time Oliver had a largely local reputation (and was nowhere near the scene of action). I appear not to have corrected this, when I should have. I think there were others, but all observations were put into storage somewhere, because the exercise of reviewing the citable articles did not proceed.Martin Wyatt (talk) 20:08, 7 February 2021 (UTC)
Martin, Thanks for your comments. John has removed the Citable versions of History of agriculture and North-west Passage, but not yet for Scarborough Castle. User:John_Stephenson said that he wrote some of that and he wonders if there is a misunderstanding (did not say that Cromwell was anywhere near the castle, for example; there is a hill called Oliver's Mount, but he was never there). I have not had time to review that article myself and know less that nothing about the topic. So for that one, feel free to go to the article Talk page and make suggestions for John to look at. And, do call any other Citable articles to our attention that have errors and need to be undone, or other things that are within out power to make better. Pat Palmer (talk) 21:19, 15 February 2021 (UTC)