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| Matt, I have updated the article on The Social Capital Foundation, corrected links. Can you approve the new version. Thanks. [[User:Koen Demol|Koen Demol]] 22:59, 24 February 2011 (UTC)
| | ==Question re 'disambiguation' pages== |
| | Through the 'Move' tab, I renamed [[Oxidation]] to [[Oxidation-Reduction]], for reasons stated on the latter's Talk page. In addition, I created a REDIRECT page, redirecting [[Redox]], an article we don't have, to [[Oxidation-Reduction]], because oxidation-reduction reactions are commonly referred to as redox reactions. |
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| :Hi Koen, good to see you! I can't actually approve an article; that requires an editor in the workgroup under which the article resides. Contact as many as you can and see if one will approve your changes and then my job is to actually update the version. Let me know if you can't get in touch with anyone. [[User:D. Matt Innis|D. Matt Innis]] 03:25, 25 February 2011 (UTC)
| | We also have an article called [[Redox modulation]]. Will any problems arise if I create [[Redox/Disambiguation]], and include both [[Redox]] and [Redox modulation]]? In other words, can a disambiguation page contain an article name that redirects to another article? |
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| Hi, well as you wish, but it's mainly about small updates (links). [[User:Koen Demol|Koen Demol]] 14:25, 25 February 2011 (UTC)
| | Thanks. [[User:Anthony.Sebastian|Anthony.Sebastian]] 21:18, 27 March 2012 (UTC) |
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| Hi Matt, I submitted the update to Roger Lohmann who had edited the text, but there is no reaction on his side so far. Perhaps have you the possibility to contact him. [[User:Koen Demol|Koen Demol]] 08:43, 14 March 2011 (UTC)
| | :Edit: I should have written [[Redox (disambiguation)]]. [[User:Anthony.Sebastian|Anthony.Sebastian]] 21:26, 27 March 2012 (UTC) |
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| I couldn't obtain any response, can you validate the changes please. [[User:Koen Demol|Koen Demol]] 14:16, 4 May 2011 (CDT)
| | :: No problems, but then [[Redox]] should redirect to the disambiguation page. And shouldn't the title rather be [[Oxidation-reduction]] (lowercase "r"). --[[User:Peter Schmitt|Peter Schmitt]] 22:36, 27 March 2012 (UTC) |
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| | :::Sounds right. So [[Redox]] should redirect to [[Redox(disambiguation)]] which would list [[Oxidation-reduction]] and [[Redox modulation]] as two links. [[User:D. Matt Innis|D. Matt Innis]] 00:25, 28 March 2012 (UTC) |
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| == [[Oxytocin]] ready for approval == | | == Please complete Approval Mechanics for [[Cypherpunk/Draft]] == |
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| Matt, I updated the version number of [[Oxytocin]] after vetting Gareth's last minute edits. I believe you can approve it now. Thanks. —[[User:Anthony.Sebastian|Anthony.Sebastian]] 21:32, 18 November 2010 (UTC) | | Matt, I just now certified [[Cypherpunk/Draft]] for approval. Will you please complete Approval Mechanics to replace the currently locked version. Thank you. [[User:Anthony.Sebastian|Anthony.Sebastian]] 20:36, 3 April 2012 (UTC), Approval Manager |
| :Will do, Anthony. I'll wait till I get home from work when I can stay focused. [[User:D. Matt Innis|D. Matt Innis]] 21:39, 18 November 2010 (UTC)
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| == Led Zeppelin ==
| | :Matt, thank you for completing the process. I think Pat Palmer should have been the second approving editor, not Anthony.Sebastian. I missed that on the metadata page. Not sure we need to make any change, or that we even could if we wanted. Sorry, learning curves get steeper progressively after age 70. May have to up my fish oil supplement. [[User:Anthony.Sebastian|Anthony.Sebastian]] 01:44, 4 April 2012 (UTC) |
| I want to know Matt why you have decided to correct Jimmy Page's birthdate in the Led Zeppelin, after refusing my request to do so a number of months ago citing "Only a music editor can correct it". This was over a series of emails I sent to you earlier this year. [[User:Meg Ireland|Meg Ireland]] 11:10, 24 November 2010 (UTC)
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| :I realized you were right. [[User:D. Matt Innis|D. Matt Innis]] 12:50, 24 November 2010 (UTC) | | ::Haha, you're not the only one, Anthony! I can't keep all these rules straight :) SO, does Pat have to put her name in the template herself (like editor's used to do before)? [[User:D. Matt Innis|D. Matt Innis]] 02:25, 4 April 2012 (UTC) |
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| == Appeal of block 1549 == | | == [[History of economic thought]] certified for approval == |
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| Hi Matt,
| | Matt, will you please complete the Approval Mechanics for [[History of economic thought]], which I certified for approval today. Thank you. [[User:Anthony.Sebastian|Anthony.Sebastian]] 14:39, 18 April 2012 (UTC) |
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| please take a look at [[CZ:Managing Editor/2010/3 - Appeal of block 1549]] and comment in the [[CZ:Managing Editor/2010/3 - Appeal of block 1549#Statement_by_the_Chief_Constable|Statement by the Chief Constable]] section as you see fit. Thank you!
| | == [[Alice and Bob]] certified for approval == |
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| --[[User:Daniel Mietchen|Daniel Mietchen]] 21:22, 24 November 2010 (UTC)
| | Matt, will you complete the Approval Mechanics for [[Alice and Bob]]. |
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| :Hi, Daniel. I have nothing to add publicly at this point. I believe it's part of my duty to keep behavior issues confidential (for a variety of reasons) until the MC or an Appeal Board directs me otherwise. [[User:D. Matt Innis|D. Matt Innis]] 01:24, 25 November 2010 (UTC)
| | Thank you. [[User:Anthony.Sebastian|Anthony.Sebastian]] 19:48, 27 April 2012 (UTC) |
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| == Speedy deletion == | | == [[Economics]] == |
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| I have tagged [[Template:Free space/Metadata]] for speedy deletion because it was a left-over after I renamed the "Free space" article to [[Free space (electromagnetism)]] as requested by our new physics author, John R. Brews, who created the article. Would you please do the deletion? [[User:Milton Beychok|Milton Beychok]] 18:49, 25 November 2010 (UTC)
| | Matt, will you complete the Approval Mechanics for [[Economics]], please. [[User:Anthony.Sebastian|Anthony.Sebastian]] 19:52, 30 May 2012 (UTC) |
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| == New editors ==
| | :Matt, shouldn't the [[Economics]] Talk page be archived/moved and a fresh ones started for the new Draft? [[User:Anthony.Sebastian|Anthony.Sebastian]] 15:37, 2 June 2012 (UTC) |
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| Milton thought you might have an answer to this. Is there a page somewhere I could put on my watchlist that would notify me of the induction of new editors? [[User:Peter Jackson|Peter Jackson]] 14:40, 5 December 2010 (UTC)
| | ::As part of Approval Mechanics, we've never archived a talk page immediately after an approval. Archiving has historically been left up to those working on the page. [[User:D. Matt Innis|D. Matt Innis]] 23:48, 2 June 2012 (UTC) |
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| == The Approved version of [[Thylakoid]] should have been the current draft version == | | == [[Passive attack]] certified for approval == |
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| | Matt, will you complete the approval process for this excellent article. I set status to "0". |
| Matt, the version of [[Thylakoid]] you recently approved is an old version. It doesn't have the many edits I made in response to Chris Day's comments and suggestions, including new images, text, and references. I wouldn't have approved that version, only the current draft version. | | Thank you. [[User:Anthony.Sebastian|Anthony.Sebastian]] 22:48, 20 June 2012 (UTC) |
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| Will you re-check? [[User:Anthony.Sebastian|Anthony.Sebastian]] 03:18, 9 December 2010 (UTC)
| | == [[Active attack]] certified for approval == |
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| :Yes, Anthony, since Chris did not add his name, I had to go with the version that Gareth approved. I assume he will probably approve the new version as well, but he needs to read it before I can put his name on it. Let me know when he does. If Chris doesn't return, I'll add your name as a second editor. [[User:D. Matt Innis|D. Matt Innis]] 03:22, 9 December 2010 (UTC)
| | Matt, also this fine article. Status needs zeroing. |
| | Thanks. [[User:Anthony.Sebastian|Anthony.Sebastian]] 23:03, 20 June 2012 (UTC) |
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| ::Thanks for clarifying, Matt. Still, I'd ask that the approval be revoked (or whatever the correct word) and the Approval Date be advanced for two weeks (from now), to give Chris a change to review the Draft version. I'm embarrassed to see that earlier version among the Approved Articles, and that version shouldn't represent CZ's best current effort. | | :Excellent. I'll get to those as soon as I get a few minutes in a row. [[User:D. Matt Innis|D. Matt Innis]] 02:05, 21 June 2012 (UTC) |
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| ::Forgot to sign. [[User:Anthony.Sebastian|Anthony.Sebastian]] 04:43, 9 December 2010 (UTC)
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| :::Okay, Anthony, I'll let Gareth take a look and see if he wants to update the version number. [[User:D. Matt Innis|D. Matt Innis]] 13:42, 9 December 2010 (UTC)
| | Matt, Cryptology certified for approval. Will you complete the approval process. Sandy will be delighted to see the three computer articles approved and locked. |
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| :::: You forgot to protect the page, Matt. --[[User:Peter Schmitt|Peter Schmitt]] 23:59, 9 December 2010 (UTC)
| | Thanks. And thanks for taking on this constable job. —[[User:Anthony.Sebastian|Anthony.Sebastian]] 18:42, 22 June 2012 (UTC) |
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| ::::: Yes, I did. [[User:D. Matt Innis|D. Matt Innis]] 04:04, 10 December 2010 (UTC)
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| ::::::Matt, on the Thylakoid Talk Page, Gareth said he'd be happy to update. Where does that leave us? I'm still concern about having that earlier version among CZ's Approved Articles. It doesn't deal with Chris's concerns, which the current draft does. [[User:Anthony.Sebastian|Anthony.Sebastian]] 06:57, 10 December 2010 (UTC)
| | Hi Matt! I uploaded this image today and for whatever reason the image did not upload correctly. Could you please fix it or guide me to someone who could help. See: http://en.citizendium.org/wiki/File:512px-Robert_patton.jpg Thanks! [[User:Mary Ash|Mary Ash]] 01:44, 29 June 2012 (UTC) |
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| ::::::: HI Anthony, I'm glad to report that I can now update to the new version (Gareth changed the approval date to the 10th so I had to wait a day!). [[User:D. Matt Innis|D. Matt Innis]] 13:26, 10 December 2010 (UTC)
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| == Okay to confirm an account for a 14-year old? Can't find any guidance in the Charter. ==
| | Matt, so far as I can tell, three articles still need completion of Approval Mechanics: |
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| Matt, is it okay to confirm a new account as an author for a 14-year old boy? Does the Charter discuss minimum age anywhere? [[User:Milton Beychok|Milton Beychok]] 23:53, 12 December 2010 (UTC)
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| :Until the MC decides differently, we approve as young as 13, but do not advertise the age (we only mention that they are in school). [[User:D. Matt Innis|D. Matt Innis]] 01:02, 13 December 2010 (UTC)
| | Thanks. —[[User:Anthony.Sebastian|Anthony.Sebastian]] 20:57, 29 June 2012 (UTC) |
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| :: Bear in mind the following guidance from [[CZ:User pages]]: | | :Thanks for making this easier for me Anthony. Sorry for the delay. Got an IPad for father's day and it doesn't allow me to edit easily here at Citizendium, so I had to wait till I was able to drag out the ole laptop. We also lost one of my great nieces this week, so there has been some lack of motivation. But, things should be back on track here soon. [[User:D. Matt Innis|D. Matt Innis]] 15:57, 30 June 2012 (UTC) |
| :: '''''Minors''' are asked not to include any personal information about themselves, nor about where they live, but they should still give some nonspecific information about their interests and education (no school names, please) '' --[[User:Chris Key|Chris Key]] 10:50, 13 December 2010 (UTC)
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| == [[Petroleum refining processes]] is in need of re-approval ==
| | ::One can never really know someone else's reality, since much of it's interior. Hard to lose a loved one. |
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| Matt, the [[Petroleum refining processes]] article is badly in need of re-approval. For example, a completely new section, "Average refinery product yields" was added many months ago and there have been some other much smaller copy edits.
| | ::I too acquired an iPad recently, just learning. If you find a way to edit CZ using it, please let me know. |
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| The article is in the Engineering and the Chemistry workgroups. The problem is that I have been the only active main-stream engineering editor for the past two years (to me, main-stream engineering does not include military engineering) and there is now only one chemistry editor (David Volk) and he is not always available. Is there anything that can be done to get that article re-approved?
| | ::Anyway, we've added three more excellent articles to the approved category. Thanks for making it official. —[[User:Anthony.Sebastian|Anthony.Sebastian]] 02:40, 1 July 2012 (UTC) |
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| According to the Google Analytics data recently added by Chris Key, that article is one that has attracted a great many visitor to CZ. [[User:Milton Beychok|Milton Beychok]] 22:47, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
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| :Milt, I won't get involved if you don't want -- I just saw this -- but may I observe my principal professional field is systems, software and network/electronics engineering, of which military and intelligence analysis is one aspect. There are aspects of military engineering where I would have no opinion. Assessing product yields, however, is a routine part of intelligence analysis for economics or targets. After all, how would someone decide to bomb your particular refinery? "Military engineers" are usually the guys that deal with minefields and bridges. :-) [[User:Howard C. Berkowitz|Howard C. Berkowitz]] 14:02, 10 January 2011 (UTC) | | Hi Matt. I found http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Facebook and thought I'd pass it along. Coupled with some people-powered marketing via Twitter and Facebook and perhaps some paid Facebook ads keyed to display when the keyword "Wikipedia" is used on a Facebook page, it could perhaps kick some life back into this project. Obviously, people on Facebook already use their real names. [[User:Stephen Ewen|Stephen Ewen]] 08:31, 1 July 2012 (UTC) |
| | *This is a great idea, in my humble opinion. Citizendium is a ghost town... piggybacking off Facebook's single sign on and verification process could be a brilliant way to attract more people. Having a 'Citizenium Facebook page' and some targeted ads could bring in more (much needed) Citizens [[User:Eric M Gearhart|Eric M Gearhart]] 13:03, 1 July 2012 (UTC) |
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| ::Howard, no slur was intended. There are quite literally dozens of engineering disciplines nowadays. However, to me, main stream engineering includes Mechanical, Electrical, Civil, Aeronautical and Chemical Engineering.
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| ::As for the re-approval of [[Petroleum refining processes]], I would prefer that it be re-approved by some chemist or engineer who is very familiar with the refining of crude oil and I was hoping that Matt could help find such a CZ member. [[User:Milton Beychok|Milton Beychok]] 18:36, 10 January 2011 (UTC) | | Matt, our logo shows: Citizens' Compendium. Otherwise, very nice. [[User:Anthony.Sebastian|Anthony.Sebastian]] 02:09, 3 July 2012 (UTC) |
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| :::Sorry Milt, I don't know of anyone, yet. [[User:D. Matt Innis|D. Matt Innis]] 19:28, 10 January 2011 (UTC) | | :Of course! Thanks, Anthony. [[User:D. Matt Innis|D. Matt Innis]] 02:57, 3 July 2012 (UTC) |
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| == New user [[User:Claude BINEAU|Claude BINEAU]] == | | ::The latter seems to make a bit more sense, though either might do. [[User:Peter Jackson|Peter Jackson]] 08:11, 3 July 2012 (UTC) |
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| | Matt could you please delete the image of Robert Patton as it did not upload correctly. I have placed a speedy tag and explanation on the image page: [[http://en.citizendium.org/wiki/File:512px-Robert_patton.jpg]]. Thanks! [[User:Mary Ash|Mary Ash]] 16:47, 4 July 2012 (UTC) |
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| Matt, I confirmed this new user with the last name all capitalized because that is how the name was written in the user's application. Is that okay? Or should I rename that user page as "Claude Bineau'' ? What do you suggest? [[User:Milton Beychok|Milton Beychok]] 18:55, 3 January 2011 (UTC)
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| :All-capitals is custom in a French context, which we don't have here, so I'd think it's better to rename to English custom. --[[User:Daniel Mietchen|Daniel Mietchen]] 23:07, 3 January 2011 (UTC)
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| ::In a French context of *what*? I spent 25 years in Tahiti reading French stuff in various contexts and came across very few names entirely in CAPS. And most Frenchmen would write "C. Bineau" rather than Claude, I think. In any case, I think that to conform with CZ conventions, the name should be put into proper form. [[User:Hayford Peirce|Hayford Peirce]] 00:49, 4 January 2011 (UTC)
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| :::Definitely lower case. [[User:D. Matt Innis|D. Matt Innis]] 01:36, 4 January 2011 (UTC)
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| :::: Using caps (or caps and small caps) for names is sometimes usual and useful (if handwritten, for instance), but there is nothing specifically French involved. There is no reason to make a name stand out like this. --[[User:Peter Schmitt|Peter Schmitt]] 01:39, 4 January 2011 (UTC) | | :Mary, Sorry for the delay. I'll get to it ASAP! [[User:D. Matt Innis|D. Matt Innis]] 17:38, 9 July 2012 (UTC) |
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| I am sending you this request concerning the UFO article. I have also posted this request on the UFO talk page. MA
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| I am requesting Editorial Council intervention to disallow Howard from making any rulings concerning any technical matters in this article. Howard has established himself in the editorial role and allowing him to make technical rulings (or any other article rulings) would be a conflict of interest. I have also sent this request to the Chief Constable for review as I am not sure of the exact procedure concerning this request. The Chief Constable can refer this request to the appropriate channels. Thanks! [[User:Mary Ash|Mary Ash]] 05:11, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
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| ::To clarify I would like Howard removed as editor from this article. He's established strong bias not only against well documented information but towards me personally. I would like his editorial role removed and another editor assigned. [[User:Mary Ash|Mary Ash]] 05:15, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
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| :::Mary, this is something that you need to bring to the Ombudsman who can facilitate your request through the system. You are correct that these are decisions that are not the concern of the constabulary. [[User:D. Matt Innis|D. Matt Innis]] 12:58, 10 January 2011 (UTC) | | ::Done[[User:D. Matt Innis|D. Matt Innis]] 17:39, 9 July 2012 (UTC) |
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| == Applications == | | == [[Europe]] is now certified for approval == |
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| Matt, a couple of my Homeopathic colleagues applied to become authors/editors here, but none of their applications have been accepted yet. Can you check and tell me what the problem is/was?-[[User:Ramanand Jhingade|Ramanand Jhingade]] 16:55, 14 January 2011 (UTC) | | Matt, [[Europe]] now certified for approval. Will you complete the Approval Mechanics. |
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| :Matt, the only homeopath that requested an author and editor account in the last month or so was Ramanand Jhingade himself ... which I rejected because he already had an account as an author and I had decided not to confirm any further editorships until the Editorial Council re-defined the requirements for editorship. In any event, in my opinion, the biography he submitted was almost identical to the one on his current user page ... and it did not convince me that he warranted an editorship. [[User:Milton Beychok|Milton Beychok]] 18:21, 14 January 2011 (UTC)
| | Thank you.[[User:Anthony.Sebastian|Anthony.Sebastian]] 20:53, 7 August 2012 (UTC) |
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| Ramanand, what were there names and I'll see if I can look back in the author request records to see what happened. I'll need them quickly because the list of rejected applications self-deletes after one month or so. Milt is right, there have been no editor acceptances of any kind since around November, but they may have been accepted as authors but didn't get their emails. It's hard to say without knowing their names. [[User:D. Matt Innis|D. Matt Innis]] 00:17, 15 January 2011 (UTC)
| | :Matt, I changed the version, and the final approval date. [[User:Anthony.Sebastian|Anthony.Sebastian]] 03:48, 13 August 2012 (UTC) |
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| Matt, Peter Jackson has (correctly in my view) suggested that [[Books of the Bible]] should actually be a subpage of [[Bible]].
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| If I just move the cluster to [[Bible/Catalogs/Books of the Bible]], will that work, or will it just mess things up. What effect, if any, would it have on the talk page and the history?
| | ::Done. FYI, Anthony, I was able to use the iPad for everything but the last step which required pasting the entire article over the redirect. I still don't trust it (or myself) enough. [[User:D. Matt Innis|D. Matt Innis]] 02:44, 14 August 2012 (UTC) |
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| I think there are probably a good few articles like this, that predate the cluster system and/or the catalog subpage. | | :::Thanks, Matt. Someday I will ask you the meaning of "pasting the entire article over the redirect"... |
| | [[User:Anthony.Sebastian|Anthony.Sebastian]] 04:01, 14 August 2012 (UTC) |
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| [[User:Aleta Curry|Aleta Curry]] 00:29, 15 January 2011 (UTC) | | :::The next to last step is to copy the entire draft article from the draft and paste it back into the main page. The redirect was created when the original article was moved to the draft location. Hope that makes sense! [[User:D. Matt Innis|D. Matt Innis]] 04:25, 14 August 2012 (UTC) |
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| : [[Bible]] is a redirect to [[The Bible]], and this only sort of "see also". But yes, I agree, [[Books of the Bible]] is a Catalog. Since there is not yet a Catalogs subpage it has to be created to list the (to be expected) several Catalogs. You can move the talk page with the page (it will then be available with the "Discussion" button of the Catalog. The history will be moved with the pages. --[[User:Peter Schmitt|Peter Schmitt]] 01:39, 15 January 2011 (UTC)
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| ::So, Peter, it seems you are saying that the page [[Books of the Bible]] and its talk page should be "moved" to [[The Bible/Catalogs/Books of the Bible]]. Makes sense to me. [[User:D. Matt Innis|D. Matt Innis]] 02:24, 15 January 2011 (UTC)
| | Am finally able to sign in and am making an edit to make sure the wiki is working. FYI, we've been broken off and on for hours. [[User:D. Matt Innis|D. Matt Innis]] 22:50, 9 September 2012 (UTC) |
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| == Could you look at the [[massage]] article? == | | == [[Theodor Lohmann/Draft]] certified for re-approval == |
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| I've been cleaning this up. In particular, some of the therapies mention spinal work, etc., and compare and contrast with chiropractic. [[User:Howard C. Berkowitz|Howard C. Berkowitz]] 14:00, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
| | Matt, will you kindly complete Approval Mechanics for this article. Thank you. [[User:Anthony.Sebastian|Anthony.Sebastian]] 22:46, 11 September 2012 (UTC) |
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| == You can review my ME talk page comments ==
| | :Finished. Thank You! [[User:D. Matt Innis|D. Matt Innis]] 00:15, 12 September 2012 (UTC) |
| Matt you can review my ME talk page comments. Thanks! [[User:Mary Ash|Mary Ash]] 16:30, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
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| == Please note my comment at [[Talk:Owens Lake]] and take the action requested ==
| | ::And thank you. [[User:Anthony.Sebastian|Anthony.Sebastian]] 02:31, 12 September 2012 (UTC) |
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| Matt, please read my last comment at [[Talk:Owens Lake]] and take the action requested. '''This is urgent to avoid another distasteful event.''' [[User:Milton Beychok|Milton Beychok]] 20:08, 3 February 2011 (UTC)
| | == please delete a false-start article == |
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| :Matt, I can see that you are on CZ from your post at [[Talk:Monty Hall problem]] and I therefore assume that you have seen this post of mine about [[Talk:Owens Lake]]. I also assume that you have now received my email that includes copies of the emails to and from the U.S. EPA by me.
| | Matt, I erred in titling [http://en.citizendium.org/wiki/CZ:Managing_Editor/2012/005_-_Importing_external_articles:_Step this article]. Please delete it for me. I started a new one with the title I wanted. Thanks. [[User:Anthony.Sebastian|Anthony.Sebastian]] 03:04, 16 September 2012 (UTC) |
| | :Got it. [[User:D. Matt Innis|D. Matt Innis]] 03:25, 16 September 2012 (UTC) |
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| :I don't quite understand why you have not yet responded or why you have not yet undone the entire set of additions made to the [[OwensLake]] article by Mary Ash at 11:04 PST this morning. Please explain.
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| :Mary, has now agreed that she reported data that have now been acknowledged as being incorrect and misleading by the very man she named as being her source. She has also removed part of her revisions this morning. The other part of her revisions (which she did not remove) still includes the acknowledged incorrect 300,000 tons (see item 9) and that part is also a very extensive, exact word-for-word copy of the out-dated EPA source webpage ... which in itself is a no-no. [[User:Milton Beychok|Milton Beychok]] 22:43, 3 February 2011 (UTC)
| | Matt, will you kindly complete the Approval Mechanics for [[Civil society/Draft]]. |
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| ::I did not state the information was incorrect or misleading. What I did state was the information was updated and based on that fact the information was removed. Also, the facts I stated should belong in the article as they are historical and they were backed by local, state and federal sources and they were correct for that time. I also prefaced the facts with the statement of some sources state...I also said I defer to the editors at Citizendium as they are editors for a reason. [[User:Mary Ash|Mary Ash]] 23:06, 3 February 2011 (UTC) | | Thank you. [[User:Anthony.Sebastian|Anthony.Sebastian]] 03:52, 18 September 2012 (UTC) |
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| :::Mary, the fact remains, no matter how convolutely you deny it, that you added content to an article which has been proven to be incorrect and misleading by the very man you quoted as your source. And the fact remains that you have not yet deleted the word-for-word copy of the EPA article that you also added this morning and which still contains the incorrect 300,000 tons (see item 9) as well as other outdated material. Trying to include incorrect data because historically they were once considered as correct is about as convoluted as it can be. That is absolutely nonsense. When will you ever learn to just admit a mistake and then move on?
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| (unindent) Matt, I still don't understand why you have not yet responded. [[User:Milton Beychok|Milton Beychok]] 23:35, 3 February 2011 (UTC)
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| :Milt, I have just returned from work (I was on earlier, but have to work during the day) and have just read your email and just responded to the orange notice that there are messages on my talk page. I am not impressed with the tone of this talk page so far and am moving to the Owens LAke talk page now. [[User:D. Matt Innis|D. Matt Innis]] 00:05, 4 February 2011 (UTC)
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| ::Matt, I truly regret that you are not impressed with the tone of this letter. I regret even more that I have already spent 5-6 hours on this today when I have other important work to do. I have no apologies to offer on anything I wrote on any talk pages today. Regards and thanks, [[User:Milton Beychok|Milton Beychok]] 01:08, 4 February 2011 (UTC) | | :Done.[[User:D. Matt Innis|D. Matt Innis]] 02:45, 19 September 2012 (UTC) |
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| :::Milt, I apologize. I read more into your comment than you wrote. What I am not impressed with is that this appears to be an honest error, yet the urgency made it sound as if you were distressed. When I reread, I see that you were only informing me and wandering why I hadn't responded. I have responded now and hope that the article can move forward. [[User:D. Matt Innis|D. Matt Innis]] 01:34, 4 February 2011 (UTC) | | ==Re-approval of [[Air pollution dispersion terminology/Draft]]== |
| | The [[Air pollution dispersion terminology]] article was approved on January 26, 2009. Since that time, these minor edits have been made: |
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| | # Caesar Shinas updated the coding for one of the images on June 8, 2009 |
| | # I updated the ADMS reference link on July 7, 2009 |
| | # I deleted part of a reference link on October 12, 2009 |
| | # I corrected a spelling error of one word on February 17, 2010 |
| | # I added another wiki link on September 20, 2010 |
| | # I corrected a wiki link on May 24, 2011 |
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| | As you can see, the above edits involved reference links, wiki links, a spelling typo and updating of an image coding. None of them changed any of the article's content. On that basis, can you just re-approve the article once you have verified the above listed edits? Please let me know. [[User:Milton Beychok|Milton Beychok]] 05:05, 24 September 2012 (UTC) |
| | :Hi Milt, I've asked our approvals manager, Anthony, to take a look so we can do it for you. [[User:D. Matt Innis|D. Matt Innis]] 16:29, 24 September 2012 (UTC) |
| | ::Draft will be certfied for re-approval 26-sep-2012 if no objections. [[User:Anthony.Sebastian|Anthony.Sebastian]] 22:35, 24 September 2012 (UTC) |
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| ::::"Calmly start over" is not going to work when there is a chronic problem. You can't continue to sweep it under the rug and say it's equally everyone's fault. How is it that I can have complete articles blanked, but it's naughty naughty when someone says feelings are hurt and it isn't what volunteers do? [[User:Howard C. Berkowitz|Howard C. Berkowitz]] 01:18, 4 February 2011 (UTC) | | ::::Done. [[User:D. Matt Innis|D. Matt Innis]] 03:13, 29 September 2012 (UTC) |
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| ==JDAM== | | Hi Matt, I've tagged a meta page left behind when I moved a page for deletion ([[Template:Pantheon/Metadata]]). It's not urgent, but I just wanted to check that I've used the right template as there are 135 pages in the automatically generated category. Thanks, [[User:Richard Nevell|Richard Nevell]] 21:15, 28 October 2012 (UTC) |
| I left this message on the discussion page: As best as I can tell no merge was done with this article as there is absolutely nothing left of what I wrote. Granted the article ended up being a dupe as there was an existing article with the wrong name leading to this mix-up. I am filing a complaint as a merge was not done instead, without explanation, almost everything, if not everything, was arbitrarily and capriciously removed. BTW the photo of the JDAM was correct as verified by my husband who is a mechanical engineer with some experience in this field.[[User:Mary Ash|Mary Ash]] 01:06, 16 February 2011 (UTC) | |
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| :Hi Mary, the purpose of the merge is to get the histories of both articles at the same place. That was performed by me, so the histories should be all in the same place. It is up to the authors (and editors) to make teh necessary content edits to restore whatever parts that you want. That's not something a constable can do, particularly when there is continued discussion. [[User:D. Matt Innis|D. Matt Innis]] 02:16, 16 February 2011 (UTC) | | :Hi Richard! You were right on the mark. That's exactly how you do it! [[User:D. Matt Innis|D. Matt Innis]] 00:02, 31 October 2012 (UTC) |
| ::Thanks Matt! Who is supposed to do the merging? The editor or the author? Just curious... [[User:Mary Ash|Mary Ash]] 03:08, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
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| :::The people that are authoring the page will have to do the merging of content. Do pay attention to any "rulings" that an eidtor may have made. I think Howard has something about a picture that you are not supposed to be using. [[User:D. Matt Innis|D. Matt Innis]] 03:13, 16 February 2011 (UTC) | | ::Good to know, thanks for sorting that out. [[User:Richard Nevell|Richard Nevell]] 21:11, 6 November 2012 (UTC) |
| ::::Howard reverted the edits I made. I left almost (I'd say about 95% of what he wrote) in the article. He's now reverted those edits. I have sent another email to the EC for review. [[User:Mary Ash|Mary Ash]] 04:23, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
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| Matt, I'd like to see my talk page with the latest at the top although I understand most folks like it at the bottom. There appears to be no option to set it so as is done on "My contributions". Easy? Not easy to configure? [[User:Joel M. Williams|Joel M. Williams]] 19:35, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
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| :A couple of years ago, with [[User:Martin Cohen|Martin Cohen]] didn't we have endless fights about this? He insisted, as I recall, that he wanted stuff at the top, but he also was wont to add his comments into the *middle* of other Talk pages. Whatever it was, I recall vaguely that he aggravated enough people before he was banned that someone or other (Larry?) decreed that new comments *had* to go to the bottom of the page rather than the top, simply to prevent confusion among the Citizens. Am I wrong about this? (I sure hope I *am* wrong about this: couldn't the Editorial Council make a ruling about this if they were asked to? It involves "content", after all....) [[User:Hayford Peirce|Hayford Peirce]] 20:02, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
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| :::If Joel is referring to his own talk page, I'd interpret the current guidance as allowing him to format as he likes. To the best of my knowledge, however, there's no automatic way to make the + tab go to the top. ''Article'' talk pages, however, are bottom-only. [[User:Howard C. Berkowitz|Howard C. Berkowitz]] 20:09, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
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| ::::I agree; Hasn't the Management Council ruled that we're editors of our own Talk pages? Surely we allow this (whether it's possible I wouldn't know). Martin Cohen was banned for very substantial other reasons than this.[[User:Gareth Leng|Gareth Leng]] 20:16, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
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| :::::Yes, I think it's been agreed (or decided) that one's own talk page is one's own. And I sure *hope* that Article talk pages are bottom down! As for Martin, I know -- I was just remembering that he was doing a *ton* of things that aggravated people, none of which actually got him banned, though.... To my mind, it was sort of like the Feds finally putting Al Capone away for income tax violations.... [[User:Hayford Peirce|Hayford Peirce]] 20:22, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
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| :::::::Well, he vanished on Jan. 7th, which is my birthday, so Larry was obviously thinking of me! [[User:Hayford Peirce|Hayford Peirce]] 20:45, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
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| :Wow! Did not know I would open Pandora's box. I'll just do with what I've got until a change is otherwise deemed necessary.[[User:Joel M. Williams|Joel M. Williams]] 21:52, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
| | I was briefly reading through the [[Neanderthal]] and noticed [[:File:Caveman diet.gif|this image]]. It was included in a section on diet, and as it's a political cartoon as removed it as it's not relevant. But now I'm wondering if it should be deleted. There's no licencing information on the file's page, and as it's not used perhaps it should be deleted to be on the safe side? [[User:Richard Nevell|Richard Nevell]] 22:27, 5 February 2013 (UTC) |
| ::Aw, we're just babblin', I think. [[User:Hayford Peirce|Hayford Peirce]] 22:16, 16 February 2011 (UTC) | | :Thanks, Richard, I deleted due tothe questionable copyright status. [[User:D. Matt Innis|D. Matt Innis]] 17:56, 11 February 2013 (UTC) |
| :I reversed my talk page to reflect what I had/have in mind.[[User:Joel M. Williams|Joel M. Williams]] 03:39, 19 February 2011 (UTC) | | ::By the way, I noticed that in the Approved version of [[Ancient Celtic music]] there's a problem with one of the references. It's after the third sentence of the second paragraph at the top of the article. After "By the time of Augustus, musical education must have widely gained ground in Gaul, otherwise Iulius Sacrovir couldn't have used the erudite Gauls as a decoy, after Sacrovir and Iulius Florus had occupied the city of Augustodonum during the Gallic insurrection in 21 AD." Looking at the source, I think some noinclude tags are causing the problem. There are several of them, but only one seems to be causing this problem (I'm not sure what the rest are doing). [[User:Richard Nevell|Richard Nevell]] 22:43, 12 February 2013 (UTC) |
| ::I know. You did it as I was writing you a note and threw me for a loop :D [[User:D. Matt Innis|D. Matt Innis]] 03:44, 19 February 2011 (UTC)
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| | Matt, I certified [[Pompeii]] for Approval. Will you kindly complete the Approval Process Mechanisms. Thank you. [[User:Anthony.Sebastian|Anthony.Sebastian]] 14:41, 14 February 2013 (UTC) |
| :I presume you did a "+" and it was put at the bottom as is the current practice. Some one could have added it to the top (as I did) or anywhere else in the list by editing YOUR whole talk page rather than using the "+" feature.[[User:Joel M. Williams|Joel M. Williams]] 22:33, 19 February 2011 (UTC)
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| ::: Good night! [[User:Johan A. Förberg|Johan A. Förberg]] 00:27, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
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| :All seems a moot point if Key is the person who actually does any changes (posted to JMW's talk: <span style="color:#7B0FFF">I certainly won't be spending any time on changing it, or even allowing the option to change it. --Chris Key 20:13, 19 February 2011 (UTC)</span>). Just seemed like a logical option for each author to be able to designate how their own page worked (in "My preferences"). Oh well, I have made my point here and on my own talk page. Interesting to test how CZ works. You'll note I chose to indent my comment to the same level as I first entered the commenting. Seemed the most logical as does bottom-posting on an opened subject. Guess I'll go work on something else. [[User:Joel M. Williams|Joel M. Williams]] 00:58, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
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| Matt: Please contact me concerning a remit from the EC. [[User:Nick Gardner|Nick Gardner]] 08:15, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
| | You have been nominated for a seat on the [[CZ:Management Council|Management Council]] in the [[CZ:Election July-August 2013|July-August Special Election]]. The nominator was myself. To accept or decline this nomination, please visit the [[CZ:Election July-August 2013/Nominations#Management Council candidates and links to their Statements|Nominations]] page by midnight UTC on July 27th. You may write an election statement for each if you wish (linked from the Nominations page). |
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| | The Management Council seat expires on either June 30th, 2014, or June 30th, 2015 (the successful candidate with fewest voting receiving the shorter term). In the event that [[CZ:Election July-August 2013/Referenda/1|Referendum 1]] is passed, all seats will expire on June 30th, 2014. Thanks! [[User:John Stephenson|John Stephenson]] 17:19, 22 July 2013 (UTC) |
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| Matt, I would like to join the nomination of [[HUBO]] for approval ... but I made some minor reformatting changes to 5 or 6 of the notes (references). Does that disqualify me from being one of the nominators? The original nominator ([[User:Andrew Alexander Wallace]]) made no edits of the article at all and he would be all that is needed for a one-editor nomination. I just want to join him as a co-nominator. Please let me know if I can do so. [[User:Milton Beychok|Milton Beychok]] 18:21, 9 March 2011 (UTC)
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| | I would like my citizendium account to be deleted, and that my name does not appear anymore on Citizendium. |
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| Matt, this is to inform you of Motion 2011-014 passed by the MC on March 15, 2011 ( see [http://en.citizendium.org/wiki/CZ:Management_Council_Passed_Motions] ), which reads:
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| | :I have reduced Sylvain's user page to the briefest of details and deleted the edit history. [[User:John Stephenson|John Stephenson]] 22:11, 2 October 2013 (UTC) |
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| :Will do that now. [[User:D. Matt Innis|D. Matt Innis]] 23:55, 16 March 2011 (UTC)
| | Hi Matt. I was just checking in to see how things were going, looking at recent changes and such. I've done this from time-to-time over the past two years plus. It seems like the project has been stuck in sort of a rut for a long time. :-( |
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| | I have ideas to breath new life in to the project and would consider donating some time to put feet to them. Email me if you think the ideas might be worth considering: stephen.ewen AT gmail.com |
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| | == Request for insight from Author Representative == |
| | Hi Matt. I would appreciate your insight and/or feedback regarding [[User_talk:Christine_Bush| a concern I have recently expressed to Constabulary]]. I value your opinion. [[User:Christine Bush|Christine Bush]] 01:12, 22 October 2014 (UTC) |
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| == Say hello to new editor in Classics, Literature and Philosophy workgroups ==
| | :Sure, Christine, I'll be glad to take a look. [[User:D. Matt Innis|D. Matt Innis]] 01:17, 23 October 2014 (UTC) |
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| I would like the grammar and composition article I spent a lot of time writing, Object (things), put back. Someone who was being rude to me deleted the article, being rude by saying "we" do not have articles like that. The article is the summary of the textbook I'm reading for this project. It is a good article. Furthermore, the person accused me of not writing the article I moved from wikinfo, which I did in fact spend weeks writing last year. Working on wiki projects is something to do, which is not supposed to include receiving criticism, accusations for other harassment, which is of course illegal and I am of course thinking of suing Wikipedia out of business for what happened over there. If someone does not like my writing, they have no right picking on me about it, and it is only their opinion. If I write an article, I like it. Thank you very much for considering my point of view.--[[User:Charles Marean, Jr|Charles Marean, Jr]] 08:16, 10 April 2011 (UTC)
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| :Hi Charles, I'll take a look. From what I've seen so far, it seems that it's mostly a matter of communication style. Citizendium does have some different qualities from other wikis with which you might need to familiarize yourself. I think mostly others are trying to point you in the right direction before you get in too deep and have too much to clean up. Take a quick look at our [http://en.citizendium.org/wiki/CZ:Charter charter] and it might help you understand the way how things work. [[User:D. Matt Innis|D. Matt Innis]] 16:35, 10 April 2011 (UTC)
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| :::I never thought about that! That makes it very important not to mix those two up. It would change the meaning of everything you wrote! [[User:D. Matt Innis|D. Matt Innis]] 16:55, 10 April 2011 (UTC)
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| :::: Charles, as I already replied to you on my talk page, I only informed you -- a newcomer -- about some rules and habits existing on CZ. One thing you have to be aware of is that criticism happens quite often here. Your article was not deleted, and I could not have deleted it even I should have wanted to. Moreover, I never said that you did not write the article on the San Francisco earthquake. I only told you that, according a Regulation of the Editorial Council, its importation is only allowed under very specific conditions that are not yet all fulfilled. --[[User:Peter Schmitt|Peter Schmitt]] 09:44, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
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| Matt, you have forgotten the redirect on talk page of [[Talk:Objects (things)]] -- you should delete it, too.
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| Was wondering why you altered my profile page.[[User:Thomas Simmons|Thomas Simmons]] 03:41, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
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| :Hi Thomas, I was cleaning up the personnel list and the constable list. [[User:D. Matt Innis|D. Matt Innis]] 10:01, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
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| ::Hi Matt, Anton has responded by saying he did not know of any such action removing me from the Constabulary. The Constables page lists only a history up to Sept 2007 as well and there have been others whose names should appear in the history. Is someone removing the history as well as appointed Constables? This is a little confusing. Can you straighten this out? [[User:Thomas Simmons|Thomas Simmons]] 22:26, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
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| ::::All right. Just so we are clear. Bruce and Anton did not know what happened either. I went through the constabulary email and found nothing. Anyway. cleared up now. [[User:Thomas Simmons|Thomas Simmons]] 23:20, 15 April 2011 (UTC)
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| Matt, the content of the [[Vacuum cleaner]] article in the Engineering Workgroup is completely inadequate even as a stub. Please remove it from the Engineering workgroup and move it into the user space of the original author ... perhaps as sandbox of some sort. Thanks. - [[User:Milton Beychok|Milton Beychok]] 23:01, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
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| :I spotted this first, so I'll go ahead and move it. Matt will probably have something less pleasant and simple to do the next time he logs in :-) [[User:Bruce M. Tindall|Bruce M. Tindall]] 00:24, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
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| ::Always nice to come to work and find my work is done :) [[User:D. Matt Innis|D. Matt Innis]] 00:48, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
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| ::::: Another reason in favour of moving instead of copying/deleting: Moved pages stay in the person's list of contributions, deleted one's disappear. --[[User:Peter Schmitt|Peter Schmitt]] 08:53, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
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| :::::: You're right. I will be moving the talk pages as well from now on. [[User:D. Matt Innis|D. Matt Innis]] 12:06, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
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| == My articles ==
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| I disagree with deleting “Objects (things)” and my other English grammar and composition articles, as well as my article, “Vacuum cleaner.” I was following the main policy, [[CZ:Quick Start]], which says the first thing I should do is start articles and do so via the “Start article” link to the left. I have no idea what [[User:Bruce M. Tindall]] is looking for in an article, but it is obviously not the same as [[CZ:Quick Start]]. If a freelance editor can be an editor here, then so should I be also. I got my bachelor’s degree in Biology in 1983. In light of the introductory directions here (as well as Wikipedia), I see no grounds for anyone targeting me. [[CZ:Quick Start]] does not say the articles need to be long or polished. However, I’ve decided I will not post my notes of that Grammar book here. If I continue reading that book, and if I post my notes online, I’ll put them somewhere that has advertising and me in total charge of what I write. If I feel like writing a long article, maybe I’ll submit it here. It seems I keep finding these wiki projects years after they need my help. [[Vacuum cleaner]] is ready to be an article, in my opinion. I wonder if some college professors talk against each other the way people were attacking my edits on Wikipedia. There was nothing wrong with the quality of my edits there or here. Well, I don’t have any “long article” ideas at this time, so good bye for now. If you need funding, I suggest you ask the government, which is perfectly capable of coining the money. I can not afford to subscribe Britannica Online or Scholastic, so obviously I can not afford to help a wiki monetarily. I’m not sure what the word “bandwidth” means but I will not use this site as a place to put my reading notes.--[[User:Charles Marean, Jr|Charles Marean, Jr]] 20:24, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
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| :Hi, Charles, I understand your frustration. I think you have to realize that this wiki is for creating complete articles. Yes, all articles have to start small and grow into a complete work with the help of others, but that is different than just taking notes from one book and placing them on a page. For a work to begin to take the form of an article, generally it will have a variety of sources about the subject. You seem to be doing more of a book report rather than an article on a particular subject that includes several references from different perspectives. I hope that helps. Please understand that is not the kind of place where you can leave your notes, but you are always welcome to help work toward building [[CZ:Neutrality Policy|neutral]] articles. [[User:D. Matt Innis|D. Matt Innis]] 23:37, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
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| == About cancelling Approval of [[HUBO]] ==
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| Matt, the original creator and by far the major contributor to [[HUBO]] was Chunbum Park. At his request, I extended the final Approval date three times, the last date being April 15th which is tomorrow. A few hours ago, Chunbum asked to have the Approval cancelled because the corrections he expected to receive from a specific person had not been received as promised.
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| So I cancelled the Approval as he requested. If that was wrong of me, then please redo my cancellation. Also, the green banner on my watchlist that lists HUBO as an Approval candidate needs de-listing of HUBO. Thanks, [[User:Milton Beychok|Milton Beychok]] 01:16, 15 April 2011 (UTC)
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| :Milt, you are certainly the one to remove the template. You're fine. Also, I don't see the HUBO article on the green template anymore. Maybe it's a cache thing and it will be gone tomorrow? [[User:D. Matt Innis|D. Matt Innis]] 01:24, 15 April 2011 (UTC)
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| == [[HUBO]] due for Approval today ==
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| Matt, I just updated the version to be approved ... and today is the day for final approval. I will post this on Bruce Tindall's Talk page as well. [[User:Milton Beychok|Milton Beychok]] 17:16, 22 April 2011 (UTC)
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| Hi Matt. I can be an editor for approving [[Alcmaeon]]. - [[User:Robert Badgett|Robert Badgett]] 01:27, 25 May 2011 (UTC)
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| == Requesting help seeking approval of [[Alcmaeon]] ==
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| Matt, will you put up the "Nominated for Approval" banner for [[Alcmaeon]]. I've emailed History Editor Russell Jones, and Health Sciences Editors Gareth Leng and Robert Badgett, asking them to see if merits nomination for approval.
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| Robert responded on article's Talk page: "Great article". In email response to me he said he'd tell you to include him as a nominator. So I think you can put up the banner with Robert as nominator.
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| Gareth's looked at article and made a few copy edits. I do not know if he's contacted you. If not, he may put in his name once the banner's up.
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| Haven't heard from Russell yet.
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| Thanks. [[User:Anthony.Sebastian|Anthony.Sebastian]] 15:18, 25 May 2011 (UTC)
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| ==Let me know if I did this right==
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| I tried to learn how to do a REDIRECT tonight using the link at the bottom of the page in edit mode. Here's the link: [[http://en.citizendium.org/wiki/Ear_barotrauma]] I wasn't trying to mess anything up just trying to learn. My doc says this is what I have and it's not going away....Sigh... [[User:Mary Ash|Mary Ash]] 03:05, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
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| :Nice try! The best thing to do, though, was to "move" the page and the redirect will be automatically made for you. The advantage to "moving" the page is that you bring the edit "history" with your article, whereas just copy and paste does not. I've gone ahead and merged the two histories for you, so now you can see all of your edits to both pages. [[User:D. Matt Innis|D. Matt Innis]] 11:37, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
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| ::Thanks! Matt. Let me know how to move something and I will. Thanks too for helping me out as always much appreciated. [[User:Mary Ash|Mary Ash]] 22:10, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
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| :::No problem. If you go to the top of a page (next to the 'history' tab) there should be a 'move' tab. When you click it, it will ask you what the new name should be. Once you fill that in, check the boxes to move the subpages and talk pages (assuming you want to). I'm thinking that you are supposed to move the metadata page first, though. That way you won't have to worry about finding the old metadata to delete it. I'm not sure if they have changed the procedure or not, but either way, you'll have to make a new metadata page. If that is not quite right, someone will come by and get it straightened out. [[User:D. Matt Innis|D. Matt Innis]] 00:39, 1 June 2011 (UTC)
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| == Two things, please ==
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| Matt, there is an applicant (with a confirmed email address) named Ebenezer Robinson awaiting confirmation of his authorship. If his bio is factually true, then he might be able to help us in our endeavors to become a non-profit entity. Please confirm him as soon as possible.
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| Also, I have requested speedy deletion of [[Nuclear weapon, FAT MAN]] for the reasons explained in the speedydeletion template. Would you please take care of that as well? Thanks, [[User:Milton Beychok|Milton Beychok]] 23:02, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
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Leave questions and requests below
Question re 'disambiguation' pages
Through the 'Move' tab, I renamed Oxidation to Oxidation-Reduction, for reasons stated on the latter's Talk page. In addition, I created a REDIRECT page, redirecting Redox, an article we don't have, to Oxidation-Reduction, because oxidation-reduction reactions are commonly referred to as redox reactions.
We also have an article called Redox modulation. Will any problems arise if I create Redox/Disambiguation, and include both Redox and [Redox modulation]]? In other words, can a disambiguation page contain an article name that redirects to another article?
Thanks. Anthony.Sebastian 21:18, 27 March 2012 (UTC)
- Edit: I should have written Redox (disambiguation). Anthony.Sebastian 21:26, 27 March 2012 (UTC)
- No problems, but then Redox should redirect to the disambiguation page. And shouldn't the title rather be Oxidation-reduction (lowercase "r"). --Peter Schmitt 22:36, 27 March 2012 (UTC)
- Sounds right. So Redox should redirect to Redox(disambiguation) which would list Oxidation-reduction and Redox modulation as two links. D. Matt Innis 00:25, 28 March 2012 (UTC)
Please complete Approval Mechanics for Cypherpunk/Draft
Matt, I just now certified Cypherpunk/Draft for approval. Will you please complete Approval Mechanics to replace the currently locked version. Thank you. Anthony.Sebastian 20:36, 3 April 2012 (UTC), Approval Manager
- Matt, thank you for completing the process. I think Pat Palmer should have been the second approving editor, not Anthony.Sebastian. I missed that on the metadata page. Not sure we need to make any change, or that we even could if we wanted. Sorry, learning curves get steeper progressively after age 70. May have to up my fish oil supplement. Anthony.Sebastian 01:44, 4 April 2012 (UTC)
- Haha, you're not the only one, Anthony! I can't keep all these rules straight :) SO, does Pat have to put her name in the template herself (like editor's used to do before)? D. Matt Innis 02:25, 4 April 2012 (UTC)
Matt, will you please complete the Approval Mechanics for History of economic thought, which I certified for approval today. Thank you. Anthony.Sebastian 14:39, 18 April 2012 (UTC)
Matt, will you complete the Approval Mechanics for Alice and Bob.
Thank you. Anthony.Sebastian 19:48, 27 April 2012 (UTC)
Matt, will you complete the Approval Mechanics for Economics, please. Anthony.Sebastian 19:52, 30 May 2012 (UTC)
- Matt, shouldn't the Economics Talk page be archived/moved and a fresh ones started for the new Draft? Anthony.Sebastian 15:37, 2 June 2012 (UTC)
- As part of Approval Mechanics, we've never archived a talk page immediately after an approval. Archiving has historically been left up to those working on the page. D. Matt Innis 23:48, 2 June 2012 (UTC)
Matt, will you complete the approval process for this excellent article. I set status to "0".
Thank you. Anthony.Sebastian 22:48, 20 June 2012 (UTC)
Matt, also this fine article. Status needs zeroing.
Thanks. Anthony.Sebastian 23:03, 20 June 2012 (UTC)
- Excellent. I'll get to those as soon as I get a few minutes in a row. D. Matt Innis 02:05, 21 June 2012 (UTC)
Cryptology certified for approval
Matt, Cryptology certified for approval. Will you complete the approval process. Sandy will be delighted to see the three computer articles approved and locked.
Thanks. And thanks for taking on this constable job. —Anthony.Sebastian 18:42, 22 June 2012 (UTC)
Could use image help
Hi Matt! I uploaded this image today and for whatever reason the image did not upload correctly. Could you please fix it or guide me to someone who could help. See: http://en.citizendium.org/wiki/File:512px-Robert_patton.jpg Thanks! Mary Ash 01:44, 29 June 2012 (UTC)
Articles needing completion of Approval Mechanics
Matt, so far as I can tell, three articles still need completion of Approval Mechanics:
Thanks. —Anthony.Sebastian 20:57, 29 June 2012 (UTC)
- Thanks for making this easier for me Anthony. Sorry for the delay. Got an IPad for father's day and it doesn't allow me to edit easily here at Citizendium, so I had to wait till I was able to drag out the ole laptop. We also lost one of my great nieces this week, so there has been some lack of motivation. But, things should be back on track here soon. D. Matt Innis 15:57, 30 June 2012 (UTC)
- One can never really know someone else's reality, since much of it's interior. Hard to lose a loved one.
- I too acquired an iPad recently, just learning. If you find a way to edit CZ using it, please let me know.
- Anyway, we've added three more excellent articles to the approved category. Thanks for making it official. —Anthony.Sebastian 02:40, 1 July 2012 (UTC)
Millions of Users
Hi Matt. I found http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Facebook and thought I'd pass it along. Coupled with some people-powered marketing via Twitter and Facebook and perhaps some paid Facebook ads keyed to display when the keyword "Wikipedia" is used on a Facebook page, it could perhaps kick some life back into this project. Obviously, people on Facebook already use their real names. Stephen Ewen 08:31, 1 July 2012 (UTC)
- This is a great idea, in my humble opinion. Citizendium is a ghost town... piggybacking off Facebook's single sign on and verification process could be a brilliant way to attract more people. Having a 'Citizenium Facebook page' and some targeted ads could bring in more (much needed) Citizens Eric M Gearhart 13:03, 1 July 2012 (UTC)
Citizen's vs. Citizens'
Matt, our logo shows: Citizens' Compendium. Otherwise, very nice. Anthony.Sebastian 02:09, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
- Of course! Thanks, Anthony. D. Matt Innis 02:57, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
- The latter seems to make a bit more sense, though either might do. Peter Jackson 08:11, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
Speedy delete
Matt could you please delete the image of Robert Patton as it did not upload correctly. I have placed a speedy tag and explanation on the image page: [[1]]. Thanks! Mary Ash 16:47, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
- Mary, Sorry for the delay. I'll get to it ASAP! D. Matt Innis 17:38, 9 July 2012 (UTC)
- DoneD. Matt Innis 17:39, 9 July 2012 (UTC)
Europe is now certified for approval
Matt, Europe now certified for approval. Will you complete the Approval Mechanics.
Thank you.Anthony.Sebastian 20:53, 7 August 2012 (UTC)
- Matt, I changed the version, and the final approval date. Anthony.Sebastian 03:48, 13 August 2012 (UTC)
- Done. FYI, Anthony, I was able to use the iPad for everything but the last step which required pasting the entire article over the redirect. I still don't trust it (or myself) enough. D. Matt Innis 02:44, 14 August 2012 (UTC)
- Thanks, Matt. Someday I will ask you the meaning of "pasting the entire article over the redirect"...
Anthony.Sebastian 04:01, 14 August 2012 (UTC)
- The next to last step is to copy the entire draft article from the draft and paste it back into the main page. The redirect was created when the original article was moved to the draft location. Hope that makes sense! D. Matt Innis 04:25, 14 August 2012 (UTC)
just testing
Am finally able to sign in and am making an edit to make sure the wiki is working. FYI, we've been broken off and on for hours. D. Matt Innis 22:50, 9 September 2012 (UTC)
Matt, will you kindly complete Approval Mechanics for this article. Thank you. Anthony.Sebastian 22:46, 11 September 2012 (UTC)
- Finished. Thank You! D. Matt Innis 00:15, 12 September 2012 (UTC)
- And thank you. Anthony.Sebastian 02:31, 12 September 2012 (UTC)
please delete a false-start article
Matt, I erred in titling this article. Please delete it for me. I started a new one with the title I wanted. Thanks. Anthony.Sebastian 03:04, 16 September 2012 (UTC)
- Got it. D. Matt Innis 03:25, 16 September 2012 (UTC)
Matt, will you kindly complete the Approval Mechanics for Civil society/Draft.
Thank you. Anthony.Sebastian 03:52, 18 September 2012 (UTC)
- Finished.D. Matt Innis 02:45, 19 September 2012 (UTC)
Matt, will you kindly complete the Approval mechanics for Block cipher/Draft.
Thank you. Anthony.Sebastian 04:00, 18 September 2012 (UTC)
- Done.D. Matt Innis 02:45, 19 September 2012 (UTC)
The Air pollution dispersion terminology article was approved on January 26, 2009. Since that time, these minor edits have been made:
- I added a wiki link on Feb 3, 2009
- Caesar Shinas updated the coding for one of the images on June 8, 2009
- I updated the ADMS reference link on July 7, 2009
- I deleted part of a reference link on October 12, 2009
- I corrected a spelling error of one word on February 17, 2010
- I added another wiki link on September 20, 2010
- I corrected a wiki link on May 24, 2011
- I replaced 3 broken reference links with 3 live, working links.
As you can see, the above edits involved reference links, wiki links, a spelling typo and updating of an image coding. None of them changed any of the article's content. On that basis, can you just re-approve the article once you have verified the above listed edits? Please let me know. Milton Beychok 05:05, 24 September 2012 (UTC)
- Hi Milt, I've asked our approvals manager, Anthony, to take a look so we can do it for you. D. Matt Innis 16:29, 24 September 2012 (UTC)
- Draft will be certfied for re-approval 26-sep-2012 if no objections. Anthony.Sebastian 22:35, 24 September 2012 (UTC)
- Matt, will you complete Approval Mechanics. Draft certified for re-approval. Thanks. Anthony.Sebastian 20:34, 27 September 2012 (UTC)
- Done. D. Matt Innis 03:13, 29 September 2012 (UTC)
Speedy deletion
Hi Matt, I've tagged a meta page left behind when I moved a page for deletion (Template:Pantheon/Metadata). It's not urgent, but I just wanted to check that I've used the right template as there are 135 pages in the automatically generated category. Thanks, Richard Nevell 21:15, 28 October 2012 (UTC)
- Hi Richard! You were right on the mark. That's exactly how you do it! D. Matt Innis 00:02, 31 October 2012 (UTC)
- Good to know, thanks for sorting that out. Richard Nevell 21:11, 6 November 2012 (UTC)
Neanderthals and political cartoons
I was briefly reading through the Neanderthal and noticed this image. It was included in a section on diet, and as it's a political cartoon as removed it as it's not relevant. But now I'm wondering if it should be deleted. There's no licencing information on the file's page, and as it's not used perhaps it should be deleted to be on the safe side? Richard Nevell 22:27, 5 February 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks, Richard, I deleted due tothe questionable copyright status. D. Matt Innis 17:56, 11 February 2013 (UTC)
- By the way, I noticed that in the Approved version of Ancient Celtic music there's a problem with one of the references. It's after the third sentence of the second paragraph at the top of the article. After "By the time of Augustus, musical education must have widely gained ground in Gaul, otherwise Iulius Sacrovir couldn't have used the erudite Gauls as a decoy, after Sacrovir and Iulius Florus had occupied the city of Augustodonum during the Gallic insurrection in 21 AD." Looking at the source, I think some noinclude tags are causing the problem. There are several of them, but only one seems to be causing this problem (I'm not sure what the rest are doing). Richard Nevell 22:43, 12 February 2013 (UTC)
Matt, I certified Pompeii for Approval. Will you kindly complete the Approval Process Mechanisms. Thank you. Anthony.Sebastian 14:41, 14 February 2013 (UTC)
- Matt, have you had a chance to complete the Approval Process for Pompeii? Anthony.Sebastian 04:04, 20 February 2013 (UTC)
- Also, Steam generator. Anthony.Sebastian 03:37, 28 April 2013 (UTC)
Nomination for the Management Council
You have been nominated for a seat on the Management Council in the July-August Special Election. The nominator was myself. To accept or decline this nomination, please visit the Nominations page by midnight UTC on July 27th. You may write an election statement for each if you wish (linked from the Nominations page).
The Management Council seat expires on either June 30th, 2014, or June 30th, 2015 (the successful candidate with fewest voting receiving the shorter term). In the event that Referendum 1 is passed, all seats will expire on June 30th, 2014. Thanks! John Stephenson 17:19, 22 July 2013 (UTC)
Delete account
Hello Matt,
I would like my citizendium account to be deleted, and that my name does not appear anymore on Citizendium.
I've tried to figure out how to do that myself but I've failed.
Best Regards,
Sylvain
- I have reduced Sylvain's user page to the briefest of details and deleted the edit history. John Stephenson 22:11, 2 October 2013 (UTC)
Looks Quiet
Hi Matt. I was just checking in to see how things were going, looking at recent changes and such. I've done this from time-to-time over the past two years plus. It seems like the project has been stuck in sort of a rut for a long time. :-(
I have ideas to breath new life in to the project and would consider donating some time to put feet to them. Email me if you think the ideas might be worth considering: stephen.ewen AT gmail.com
Stephen Ewen 07:30, 15 February 2014 (UTC)
Request for insight from Author Representative
Hi Matt. I would appreciate your insight and/or feedback regarding a concern I have recently expressed to Constabulary. I value your opinion. Christine Bush 01:12, 22 October 2014 (UTC)
- Sure, Christine, I'll be glad to take a look. D. Matt Innis 01:17, 23 October 2014 (UTC)
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