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Just wanted to point out such a chapter is probably necessary. It might eventually go under "Origin of cells". --[[User:Nereo Preto|Nereo Preto]] 02:04, 5 February 2007 (CST) | Just wanted to point out such a chapter is probably necessary. It might eventually go under "Origin of cells". --[[User:Nereo Preto|Nereo Preto]] 02:04, 5 February 2007 (CST) | ||
== Help: My edits caused loss of earlier versions == | |||
Help: Could someone restore to last version, by Larry Sanger, as my attempt to add subsection caused loss of earlier version [[User:Anthony.Sebastian|Anthony.Sebastian]] [[User talk:Anthony.Sebastian|(Talk)]] 23:03, 25 February 2007 (CST) | |||
:Done, the problem was that you had forgotten to add an <nowiki></ref></nowiki> to the end of your text. [[User:Chris day|Chris Day]] [[User talk:Chris day|(Talk)]] 23:12, 25 February 2007 (CST) | |||
::Thanks, Chris, for getting me out of trouble, again. [[User:Anthony.Sebastian|Anthony.Sebastian]] [[User talk:Anthony.Sebastian|(Talk)]] 11:11, 26 February 2007 (CST) | |||
==Article sources transfer from article== | |||
Citations | |||
2. ↑ Dyson F (1982) A model for the origin of life. See Dyson (1982) J Mol Evol 18:344-350 Email me for Full-Text PDF. [[User:Anthony.Sebastian]] | |||
3. ↑ Post RL. (1990) The origin of homeostasis in the early earth. Journal of Molecular Evolution 31:257-64 Summary and Link to Full-Text. Email me for full-text PDF. [[User:Anthony.Sebastian]] | |||
4. ↑ Galimov EM. (2004) Phenomenon of life: between equilibrium and non-linearity. Orig.Life Evol Biosph. 34:599-613. Email me for Full-Text PDF. [[User:Anthony.Sebastian]] | |||
== additional references == | |||
George Wald, The Origins of Life, | |||
Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences of the United States of America > Vol. 52, No. 2 (Aug., 1964), pp. 595-611 | |||
"This seems then to have been the history of life upon this planet:the slow combination of the gasses of the primitive atmosphere to form simple unit organic molecules which then accmulated in the sea; the polymerization of some of those molecules to form the first macromolecules comparable with our present proteins and nucleic acids; the aggregation of such large and small molecules in the sea to form micelles of various sizes and grades of complexity, with te final achievemet of the living state. Then the gradual mastery of the fundamental problems of deriving energy and preparing new organic molecules with which life could eventually spread upon a cosmic scale, in he process transforming radically the atmospere of the planet." | |||
== pre-replicator evolution heading == | |||
Re the heading "Pre-replicator chemical evolution": it should be made clear that "evolution" here means evolution in the sense of "change", not evolution in the sense of mutation and natural selection, since the latter process cannot occur without ongoing replication. --[[User:Catherine Woodgold|Catherine Woodgold]] 17:28, 28 April 2007 (CDT) | |||
== Workgroups, topic, & naming == | |||
If this article is to concern only what biologists today believe about the origin of life, then where should we place information about what various religions, mythologies, and occult theories have said about the origin of life? Without putting much thought into it, I can imagine two articles: [[origins of life (Biology)]] and [[origins of life (Religion)]]. | |||
Obviously, our [[CZ:Neutrality Policy|Neutrality Policy]] requires that we have detailed information on both topics. --[[User:Larry Sanger|Larry Sanger]] 23:15, 6 May 2007 (CDT) |
Latest revision as of 09:00, 12 November 2007
Oldest fossils
Just wanted to point out such a chapter is probably necessary. It might eventually go under "Origin of cells". --Nereo Preto 02:04, 5 February 2007 (CST)
Help: My edits caused loss of earlier versions
Help: Could someone restore to last version, by Larry Sanger, as my attempt to add subsection caused loss of earlier version Anthony.Sebastian (Talk) 23:03, 25 February 2007 (CST)
- Done, the problem was that you had forgotten to add an </ref> to the end of your text. Chris Day (Talk) 23:12, 25 February 2007 (CST)
- Thanks, Chris, for getting me out of trouble, again. Anthony.Sebastian (Talk) 11:11, 26 February 2007 (CST)
Article sources transfer from article
Citations
2. ↑ Dyson F (1982) A model for the origin of life. See Dyson (1982) J Mol Evol 18:344-350 Email me for Full-Text PDF. User:Anthony.Sebastian
3. ↑ Post RL. (1990) The origin of homeostasis in the early earth. Journal of Molecular Evolution 31:257-64 Summary and Link to Full-Text. Email me for full-text PDF. User:Anthony.Sebastian
4. ↑ Galimov EM. (2004) Phenomenon of life: between equilibrium and non-linearity. Orig.Life Evol Biosph. 34:599-613. Email me for Full-Text PDF. User:Anthony.Sebastian
additional references
George Wald, The Origins of Life, Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences of the United States of America > Vol. 52, No. 2 (Aug., 1964), pp. 595-611
"This seems then to have been the history of life upon this planet:the slow combination of the gasses of the primitive atmosphere to form simple unit organic molecules which then accmulated in the sea; the polymerization of some of those molecules to form the first macromolecules comparable with our present proteins and nucleic acids; the aggregation of such large and small molecules in the sea to form micelles of various sizes and grades of complexity, with te final achievemet of the living state. Then the gradual mastery of the fundamental problems of deriving energy and preparing new organic molecules with which life could eventually spread upon a cosmic scale, in he process transforming radically the atmospere of the planet."
pre-replicator evolution heading
Re the heading "Pre-replicator chemical evolution": it should be made clear that "evolution" here means evolution in the sense of "change", not evolution in the sense of mutation and natural selection, since the latter process cannot occur without ongoing replication. --Catherine Woodgold 17:28, 28 April 2007 (CDT)
Workgroups, topic, & naming
If this article is to concern only what biologists today believe about the origin of life, then where should we place information about what various religions, mythologies, and occult theories have said about the origin of life? Without putting much thought into it, I can imagine two articles: origins of life (Biology) and origins of life (Religion).
Obviously, our Neutrality Policy requires that we have detailed information on both topics. --Larry Sanger 23:15, 6 May 2007 (CDT)