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== Hurricane is coming! ==
== Resigning Biology Editorship ==
Wish us well in sleepy Galveston, Tx.  It looks like Tropical Storm (or Hurricane) Edouard is set for a direct hit on Galveston tomorrow morning about 8 am or so. [[User:David E. Volk|David E. Volk]] 10:57, 4 August 2008 (CDT)
I signed up for CZ and requested to be a Chemistry Editor, based on my PhD in Chemistry. After looking over my publications, Larry Sanger approved me to be a Biology Editor as well. Given the mood of the current Editorial Council, a council on which I once sat, and their new standards, I feel it only appropriate to resign this editorship. I do so not to make a public statement of any kind, but because I am unsure that my education, research interests and publications would necessarily qualify me under the current standards. [[User:David E. Volk|David E. Volk]] 19:15, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
 
:I keep my fingers crossed--[[User:Paul Wormer|Paul Wormer]] 11:12, 4 August 2008 (CDT)
 
 
== Now Hurricane Ike is coming ==
Being about 11 miles east of Galveston, TX, in Jamaica Beach, it looks like what Eduardo left behind Ike is about to fully destroy.  News reports have the current storm surge at 8 ft, and the hurricane hasn't even hit the Galveston area yet. This one looks to be a truely devastating storm for the Galveston-Houston area. For those of you watching the news,
Jamaica Beach is about 11 miles west of 61st in Galveston, which they keep showing on the news. Wish us well and I hope to be back to working on CZ soon. [[User:David E. Volk|David E. Volk]] 13:47, 12 September 2008 (CDT)
 
I wish you all the best...I hope you are prepared, and "godspeed" to your return! --[[User:Larry Sanger|Larry Sanger]] 13:55, 12 September 2008 (CDT)
 
:: Thanks Larry.  We are holed up and safe in SW Houston area to avoid the storm surge. Unfortunately, my house, my mother-in-law's house, and those of many friends are in great peril on the west end of Galveston Island where there is no Seawall.  Family, friends and pets will all be saved, and that is the important part. [[User:David E. Volk|David E. Volk]] 14:50, 12 September 2008 (CDT)
 
:::: I'm very glad everyone is safe, at least. --[[User:Larry Sanger|Larry Sanger]] 15:09, 12 September 2008 (CDT)
 
Well, David--it's passed now, I see.  I hope you, your family, and your property are all right... --[[User:Larry Sanger|Larry Sanger]] 18:42, 13 September 2008 (CDT)
 
== Tornado rips roof off of my hotel ==
Well, we had to be saved by the Jersey Village Fire Department after the hotel that I evacuated to had its roof ripped off during the huricane. It was the second (top) floor that I was in.  About 3 am, firemen pounded on our hotel door, Motel 6 in Jersey Village, demanding evacuation.
About 100 ft. of our hotel roof was ripped off by a tornado as the hurricane passed by.  We leashed the dogs and rushed into the 80 mph winds and huddled in the office until the 80 or so of us were bussed to the Jersey Village Baptist Church a few blocks away.  We were evacuated from our evacuation!!  Pictures of the hotel have been playing all over Texas, so you might have seen it nationally as well.
 
On a  brighter note, I saw my house in a new satelite image and the living quarters are still standing.  The bottom storage area has been ripped away.  My mother-in-law's house suffered similar damage.  Everyone is very curious as to why the government refused fly-overs above Jamaica Beach and surrounding areas for so long. [[User:David E. Volk|David E. Volk]] 02:00, 17 September 2008 (CDT)


Thanks for the update, David--amazing.  I'm very glad things weren't worse than they could have been. --[[User:Larry Sanger|Larry Sanger]] 22:23, 19 September 2008 (CDT)
== New Chemistry editor, [[User:Joel M. Williams‎|Joel M. Williams]] ==
 
== Rental house - water up to top of front door ==
I was able to inspect our rental house, and the water line was exactly up to the top of the front door.  What an unholy smell inside!  Our poor renter, a medical student, has lost everything.  Yesterday, six scientists, including me, ripped out 5000 sq. ft. of muddy filthy carpet from our [[NMR spectroscopy]] center so we could save millions worth of electronics from getting ruined.  Previously we determined that all four electomagnetics were still doing running, not a single quench.  The university emergency power saved our pumped magnet. I still haven't been able to get to my residence yet.  [[User:David E. Volk|David E. Volk]] 08:03, 20 September 2008 (CDT)
 
:How's it going? Having a break from the hard work of cleaning up? Sounds like misery. [[User:Chris Day|Chris Day]] 08:25, 24 September 2008 (CDT)
 
::They are letting the masses back into Galveston today, so we are taking the day off to avoid many hours of traffic delays.  I got to our house in Jamaica Beach, and the living quarters, being about 14 feet high, are fine, only flooding underneath in the storage area, which received about 4.5 feet of water. [[User:David E. Volk|David E. Volk]] 08:41, 24 September 2008 (CDT)
 
:::If you ask me, [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=Jamaica+Beach,+tx&ie=UTF8&ll=29.079088,-95.125422&spn=0.025316,0.038452&z=15&layer=c&cbll=29.070726,-95.12392&panoid=KhINcdxUS13ooK6gtVHAyA&cbp=1,66.86994199245129,,0,0.13586313643180128 these people (click on Street View)] are very, um...brave. --[[User:Larry Sanger|Larry Sanger]] 08:54, 24 September 2008 (CDT)
 
== Please join us for Biology Week! ==
 
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Hello David,
 
Yeah, with you digging out of mud, I'm sure this is going to happen, but I thought I'd just give you this anyway.
 
I am giving you this personal invitation to join us this week for Biology Week!
 
Please join us on the wiki and add or edit biology articles.  Also, please let your friends and colleagues who are biologists, biology students, or naturalists, know about Biology Week and ask them to join us, too.  Any way you can help make it an event would be most welcome.  Think of it as a [[CZ:Biology Workgroup|Biology Workgroup]] open house.  Let's see if we can kick up activity a notch!
 
Thanks in advance! --[[User:Larry Sanger|Larry Sanger]] 12:36, 22 September 2008 (CDT)
</td><td>{{Biology open house}}</td></tr></table>
 
== broke my right hand==
I will be inactive due to breaking my hand and hurricane recovery.  i hope to be back and active  by mid november.[[User:David E. Volk|David E. Volk]] 06:11, 30 September 2008 (CDT)
:Good luck with both! [[User:Daniel Mietchen|Daniel Mietchen]] 06:14, 30 September 2008 (CDT)
 
== Thanks for nominating [[Henry's Law]] ==
 
David, thanks a bunch. How is your hand now? Has it recovered fully? [[User:Milton Beychok|Milton Beychok]] 20:29, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
 
Not a bit I think.  The alignment seems too poor.  Might need to find a better quack. [[User:David E. Volk|David E. Volk]] 20:38, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
 
:David, I had a hip replacement last December and I've spent the next 10 months trying to find someone or something that will relieve the pain I am still having. I'm sure that's no consolation to you, but I thought it might be of interest. [[User:Milton Beychok|Milton Beychok]]
 
== Piquet ==
 
Your change was not done consistently. [[User:Peter Jackson|Peter Jackson]] 08:30, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
 
Thanks for pointing out the lack of clarity in the explanation of point. That's exactly the sort of feedback I need. I think, subject to decisions by the games workgroup, that the reader should be assumed to know almost nothing about playing cards & their terminology, though it would be rather impractical to explain some very basic terms like shuffle & cut. Anyway, see what you think of my revised wording. [[User:Peter Jackson|Peter Jackson]] 08:18, 25 October 2008 (UTC)
 
== Circularity ==
 
Thanks for looking at [[Incentre]]: I have made some comments at [[Talk:Incentre]] and [[Talk:Incentre/Related Articles]] explaining why I arranged things the way I did.  [[User:Richard Pinch|Richard Pinch]] 07:25, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
 
== Definitions ==
 
I see you are a man on a mission, your last four hours work is very impressive. By the way, how is your hand doing?  [[User:Chris Day|Chris Day]] 22:39, 29 November 2008 (UTC)
 
:David, is that you or your definition writing machine!  Nice going.  We definitely need a definition write-a-thon. Any way, your efforts are not going unnoticed. :) [[User:Chris Day|Chris Day]] 17:35, 7 December 2008 (UTC)
 
== Not a problem on nominations for article/draft ==
 
I have no difficulty with your suggestion. Frankly, I'm much more concerned with trying to find other editors for Approval; the "of the week" isn't that big a thing other than that I thought it was a way to draw that attention.
 
Several other articles are in the close-to-approval stage, but there just don't seem to be active Computers, History or Military editors.  Even lower-case e-diting is nice but not happening. When I'm not actively writing, my efforts seem to be in dealing with either trying to guide either non-neutral or orphaned articles, or to try to get new contributors to focus on an article itself rather than metadiscussions about CZ policy and practice.
 
I suppose I'm not sure what energy does get generated by "of the week"; I had been hesitant about adding anything else. [[User:Howard C. Berkowitz|Howard C. Berkowitz]] 18:33, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
 
== Thanks and why? ==


Hi, David:
Hi, David:


Thanks for nominating [[Bar (unit)]] and [[Partial pressure]] for approval.
We have a new Chemistry editor. Perhaps you may wish to post a welcome message on his Talk page. Regards, [[User:Milton Beychok|Milton Beychok]] 02:49, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
 
I don't understand why you nominated [[Henry's Law]] for re-approval. It was already approved. Would you please explain why you felt it needed re-approval ... not that I really mind what you did, I just want to understand why.
 
Thanks, [[User:Milton Beychok|Milton Beychok]] 15:55, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
 
:(With tongue in buccal cavity) While I recognize this term is disambiguated, I find myself, at least until more coffee is ingested, unable to get the "Davy Crockett" song out of my head, with the verse "killed him a b'ar when he was only three" being especially persistent. Should this persist, I may need to visit a bar (place of serving of flavored ethanol).[[User:Howard C. Berkowitz|Howard C. Berkowitz]] 16:34, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
::Weren't ''piano bars'' particularly in vogue in the 1980s? [[User:Aleta Curry|Aleta Curry]] 04:28, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
 
== Asian names, especially Vietnamese ==
 
I have not tried to follow that sorting convention in the Vietnam metadata, although I'd be perfectly open to having it in redirects. I recommend extensive use of redirects, but use of the form in which the name is most commonly written.
 
While I can't speak specifically to the origin of Bao Dai, that's a specifically royal name. When he abdicated, he was known as Vinh Thuy for a time, and I don't know which, if either, was the family name.
 
There are many ''names de guerre''. I forget the exact translation of Ho Chi Minh, but it wasn't his birth name, [[Nguyen Tat Thanh‎]]. For many years, he was known as [[Nguyen Ai Quoc]], or Nguyen the Patriot.
 
One of the leading Communist theoreticians was called Truong Chinh,  which is sometimes written Chinh, Truong. He was born Dang Xuan Khu. "Truong Chinh" is the Vietnamese for "Long March"; he was a Maoist. Should he be indexed under "March, Long"?  The two-word names often are not family name-two word personal name. For that matter, I created a redirect [[Chinh, Truong]]. Should there be a redirect [[Chinh Truong]] as well, neither, or both?
 
We have no simple answer, but I don't think assuming that Bao or Dai is the family name. While I'd have to verify it, I believe he was of the Nguyen dynasty. Should we be indexing Elizabeth Windsor; Windsor, Elizabeth; or Saxe-Coburn-Battenberg, Elizabeth? [[User:Howard C. Berkowitz|Howard C. Berkowitz]] 18:06, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
 
:Hey, I'm delighted that someone is looking at the Vietnam articles at all. As you may have realized, I've been trying to deal with that whole area of articles, perhaps to make it a case study of how to deal with a complex subject such as a major war. WWII would, however, be a lot tougher if everyone seemed to be named Nguyen. Unfortunately, I don't read Vietnamese, so I get stuck on how to deal with things like the Annamite House of Nguyen and Bao Dai. There are lots of Asian nuances, such as "Hirohito" properly being called "Emperor Showa" after his death. [[User:Howard C. Berkowitz|Howard C. Berkowitz]] 20:33, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
 
== Approvals! ==
 
Hi David, I was able to perform the mechanics of approval on [[Bar (unit)]], but since you wrote most of the other article [[Ketoconazole]], I have to wait till you get two more editors on board.  Congrats on the other one! [[User:D. Matt Innis|D. Matt Innis]] 20:21, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
 
== Dien Bien Phu ==
 
A pleasant surprise! Do the French still lose in this production?
 
Seriously, there's been some very substantial of what has been [[Vietnam War]], and there's talk page discussion of retitling. I've put a placeholder at [[Wars of Vietnam, 1858-1987]]; more eyes on the existing main article and subarticles are welcome. It would nice if we had someone with expertise on the post-1975 wars, but we don't even ''have'' an article on [[Cambodia]].
 
[[User:Howard C. Berkowitz|Howard C. Berkowitz]] 23:19, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
 
== Nomination of [[Ideal gas law]] for approval ==
 
Hi, David. I have just nominated [[Ideal gas law]] for approval. Since I worked on that article to some extent, 2 more editors are required to join in the nomination. I am inviting you and Paul Wormer to join me in the nomination. Regards and Happy New Year, [[User:Milton Beychok|Milton Beychok]] 17:54, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
 
:Please excuse me if I am "nagging", but I would really like to have you collaborate in improving [[Ideal gas law]] to the point where it can be Approved. Regards, [[User:Milton Beychok|Milton Beychok]] 23:31, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
 
== The Nosy MC strikes again, this time with accomplices! ==
 
So, Davey-boy, I nominate you to put yer $$$ where yer mouth is and host the first experimental write-a-thon adjunct Sunday session on the 11th January 2009 for the working folks, and let's see how it goes. Heeeeeee!!! [[User:Aleta Curry|Aleta Curry]] 00:48, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
 
== NMR Approval ==
 
Hi David, please see [http://en.citizendium.org/wiki?title=Talk%3ANMR_spectroscopy&diff=100435430&oldid=100435428#Approval_potential this].  Thanks, [[User:D. Matt Innis|D. Matt Innis]] 02:23, 17 January 2009 (UTC).
 
I request you to review the [[NMR spectroscopy]] article for approval. Can you suggest a third editor for this? [[User:Sekhar Talluri|Sekhar Talluri]] 04:58, 17 January 2009 (UTC)
 
Thanks for your approval.[[User:Sekhar Talluri|Sekhar Talluri]] 23:00, 17 January 2009 (UTC)
 
:Hi David, can you please take another look at the changes I made since your approval? Besides, I just noticed that clicking your "Email this user" link produces an error message:
No e-mail address<BR>
This user has not specified a valid e-mail address, or has chosen not to receive e-mail from other users.<BR>
Return to Welcome to Citizendium.
:--[[User:Daniel Mietchen|Daniel Mietchen]] 01:54, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
 
::: Sorry Daniel.  I had to re-allow e-mail from other users after I updated my e-mail address in January.  Silly me, I assumed that my old prefs would still apply!  Anywho, I will look at NMR stuff this weekend. [[User:David E. Volk|David E. Volk]] 18:08, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
 
== Supercool ==
 
As distinct from supercooling, certainly a form of high approval in various dialects and subcultures. [[User:Howard C. Berkowitz|Howard C. Berkowitz]] 19:26, 17 January 2009 (UTC) :-)
 
:Apropos of silly observations, is Sympathetic Magic a change to the Citizendium page, or to a similacrum of the Citizendium page? I don't think I want to look to closely at sympathetic magic versus virtual reality, or even virtual software. [[User:Howard C. Berkowitz|Howard C. Berkowitz]] 23:11, 17 January 2009 (UTC)
 
== Psychopharmacology of guilt ==
 
Now you are making ''me'' guilty to have filled in the disproof of the [[absinthe]] myths. :-) [[Benzodiazepine]], probably; I'd guess a longer-acting one like clonazepam.
 
Seriously, did I get the redirects right? I always thought of AZT as zidovudine, as well as ZDV, the original AZT coming not from the nonproprietary name but a contracted chemical name.  The motivation for me to do this was [[AIDS denialism]], which is well meant but needs some clarification and sourcing.  It appeared that the previous AZT redirect should have gone to ATZ. [[User:Howard C. Berkowitz|Howard C. Berkowitz]] 22:05, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
 
::Whatever acronyms I used in the articles came from the 3 big drug sites. They should be correct, but of course many acronyms are used for multiple things. [[User:David E. Volk|David E. Volk]] 22:09, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
 
:::Might have been a transposition typo on ATZ and AZT. [[User:Howard C. Berkowitz|Howard C. Berkowitz]] 23:08, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
 
== Arrow + text ==
 
:<math> A\; \stackrel{(90)_x}{\longrightarrow}\; B </math>
 
--[[User:Paul Wormer|Paul Wormer]] 08:05, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
 
== Literature editors? ==
 
David, in your capacity as an Editorial Personnel Administrator, do you know whether we have any ''currently active'' Literature editors? Thanks. [[User:Bruce M.Tindall|Bruce M.Tindall]] 01:14, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
:If they exist, they have sure escaped *my* scrutiny! [[User:Hayford Peirce|Hayford Peirce]] 01:43, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
 
==Semi-automatic==
May I ask you to revert "semi-automatic"? Also, please don't change [[full-automatic]], [[half-duplex]], [[full-duplex]], etc.  I can clarify the article further, but the term, in engineering, is not limited to firearms. It's used for any number of industrial tools (e.g., think of a nail gun that requires a trigger pull for each firing, as opposed to a production line tool that inserts fasteners until the magazine is empty.). Duplex modes are not unique to cables.
 
In any event, an adjective is often more descriptive than a noun phrase in both describing an idea, and also in linking without piping. [[User:Howard C. Berkowitz|Howard C. Berkowitz]] 18:07, 14 March 2009 (UTC)
 
:I really have to disagree. Even if one was speaking only of things that fire ammunition, "semi-automatic firearm" is not the military usage for other than small arms; "firearm" is much more a legal than a military term. Depending on size, one speaks of machine guns, autocannon, and semi- or full-automatic artillery.
 
:Wearing my hat as a computer scientist, "full-automatic" is not used for such things as debits: something is either automatic or indefinite, while individual electronic transactions are just that. The idea that adjectives cannot be article titles, as far as I know, is not an established policy; I personally object to it based on customary usage in a number of fields. [[User:Howard C. Berkowitz|Howard C. Berkowitz]] 19:19, 14 March 2009 (UTC)
 
:: Once again, you are looking at this with a Military/machine mindset.  To you, semi-automatic implies first weapons, and then other machines, not processes.  The fact is, this adjective could be used in many ways that neither of us can think of.  I am simply trying to make the title more specific. Semi-automatic is an adjective, not a noun. So write articles about [[Semi-automatic firearms]], [[Semi-automatic weapons systems]] or whatever, but not semi-automatic.  If we were writing an encyclopedia of limited scope, such claiming of adjectives for title would be ok.  If we can be more specific in titles, it saves us all time in the future by avoiding renaming and redirects.  If, however, you actually plan on changing the article to cover all areas of [[automation]] and [[semi-automation]], then these terms could be used.  If you are restricting your discussion to military or machines, then these terms are not correct for the article. So I won't change it back, but I can't stop you from doing so either Howard. [[User:David E. Volk|David E. Volk]] 19:37, 14 March 2009 (UTC)
 
::: In this same way, I won't rename [[Nuclear Magnetic Resonance Spectroscopy]] to [[Nuclear]], leaving out the implied words used in my world.  Nuclear also doesn't imply a [[Nuclear Weapon]], even though it does for many people without physics and chemistry backgrounds.  [[User:David E. Volk|David E. Volk]] 19:41, 14 March 2009 (UTC)
 
::::I'm quite aware of the reason that "MRI" has replaced imaging (as opposed to nonimaging) nuclear magnetic resonance. Indeed, I wrote [[nuclear weapon]], never having thought to use other than the phrase. Nevertheless, there are different types of weapons (as well as industrial processes) that use semi-automatic or full-automatic as qualifying adjectives for terms other than "firearm".  A rocket launcher, for example, can be semi- or full-automatic; many discussions of weaponry do not treat rockets (i.e., reaction motor operating outside the launcher) as firearms (i.e., all reaction inside the launcher).
 
::::I'd also note that I would agree with you had I said "automatic", but I was very careful to write "semi-automatic" and "full-automatic".  In a computing standpoint, different adjectives would be used such as "automated", and I would never use "automated" as a standalone term.  Semi- and full-automatic are principally terms for weaponry, or for a subset of manufacturing equipment whose operating principles are drawn from the feed and actuating mechanisms of weapons. Note that the articles were assigned to the Military Workgroup and made no claim of applicability other than to that field. [[User:Howard C. Berkowitz|Howard C. Berkowitz]] 21:06, 14 March 2009 (UTC)
 
:::::Sounds like you should move the articles to [[Semi-automic weapon]] or [[Semi-automatic (Military)]].  If author disambiguate their own articles, others like me won't change them to undesired new names.  My beef is with the whole idea of using adjectives to create ambiguous article titles. [[User:David E. Volk|David E. Volk]] 21:18, 14 March 2009 (UTC)
 
== Articles ready for approval ==
 
Milt has listed [[vapor pressure]], [[relative volatility]], and [[specific heat ratio]] at [[CZ:Ready for approval]].  I believe he is the primary CZ author for all three.  Could you have a look and see if you'd be in favor of approval?  Thanks, [[User:Joe Quick|Joe Quick]] 15:04, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
:David, Joe asked me the very same question. As far as I know, one editor can do the job. Will I take the first two and you the third, or do you have a preference? I'm completely neutral on it, I'm also willing to do all three or none.--[[User:Paul Wormer|Paul Wormer]] 16:14, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
::Yes, a single editor should be able to do the job for any of those articles.  (I've simply learned to cast the net widely when it comes to volunteer projects. :-) ) Thanks for your help. --[[User:Joe Quick|Joe Quick]] 22:53, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
 
== Biochem subgroup ==
 
just wanted to let you know there is a subgroup called [[CZ:Biochemistry Subgroup]].  If you could add Biochemistry to the sub (1, 2, or 3) in the metadata that would be great for any Biochem articles you are part of! [[User:Tom Kelly|Tom Kelly]] 18:03, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
 
===Could you officially say that biochemistry subgroup is allowed to be affiliated with bio and chem workgroups, mr editor?===
http://en.citizendium.org/wiki/CZ:Biochemistry_Subgroup/Affiliation
 
Thank you! this is how gareth did it if you want to see his... http://en.citizendium.org/wiki/CZ:Physiology_Subgroup/Affiliation[[User:Tom Kelly|Tom Kelly]] 19:19, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
 
== Physiology subgroup ==
 
There is also a physiology subgroup [[CZ:Physiology Subgroup]] Spread the word. [[User:Tom Kelly|Tom Kelly]] 18:04, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
 
== don't have time now but probably should make a pharmacology subgroup, eh? ==
 
what do you think, should we make a pharmacology subgroup? [[CZ:Pharmacology Subgroup]] [[User:Tom Kelly|Tom Kelly]] 22:19, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
 
== why cut out so many sections? ==
 
I just was just looking at: http://en.citizendium.org/wiki?title=Special:RecentChangesLinked&target=Category%3ABiochemistry_tag
 
why cut out so many sections of articles? I noticed a few 2,000+ removals. Just curious. [[User:Tom Kelly|Tom Kelly]] 23:03, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
 
:I just looked at one of the changes at random -- it was the removal of external links at the bottom of the article. Are all the others? Maybe David finds them problematic for some reason? [[User:Hayford Peirce|Hayford Peirce]] 23:13, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
 
::: I did not mean to remove anything, except for excess directions on filled MetaData pages.  All other edits were merely opening and resaving pages to make them so up on the Biochem Subgroup page. I will have a quick look. [[User:David E. Volk|David E. Volk]] 13:02, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
 
== David, asking a favor of you ==
 
David, I have just finished writing an article about '''Gasoline''' in my sandbox at [[User:Milton Beychok/Sandbox]]. I would very much appreciate your spending 15-30 minutes reviewing it and giving me your comments on my sandbox's Talk page at [[User talk:Milton Beychok/Sandbox]].
 
At this point, I'm not seeking detailed copy edits or detailed rewordings. I just want your overall impressions of the article and its contents and any very major points you may wish to offer. [[User:Milton Beychok|Milton Beychok]] 21:54, 18 April 2009 (UTC)
 
:David, I saw your reply on the talk page. Do you think it's at approval level already?  With you and a few other editors working full time, Citizendium might actually catch up with Milt Beychok! --[[User:Joe Quick|Joe Quick]] 03:59, 26 April 2009 (UTC)
 
== Approval process for Animal ==
 
Mr. Volk, I've been working on the [[Animal]] article, and I've just finished up its draft. Could read it over and see if you could initiate the approval process for it? I'm pretty proud of it, and I'd love to see it garner approved status. Sincerely, [[User:Joshua Choi|Joshua Choi]] 23:57, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
 
== Benzylpenicillin ==
 
Yes, I meant to do that. Benzylpenicillin was the first penicillin in clinical use, and was the first to be degraded by penicillinases (specifically, penicillin beta-lactamase). Methicillin was developed as the first semisynthetic penicillin resistant to degradation, although it suffered from the problem of requiring parenteral administration.
 
My very first independent research as an undergraduate dealt with competitive inhibition of penicillinase, and penicillin G was the substrate I was trying to protect.
 
Other early, non-resistant penicillins were penicillin V, which was stable on oral adminstration, and an iodine-substituted variant, penethemate hydriodide, which was supposed to be less allergenic. [[User:Howard C. Berkowitz|Howard C. Berkowitz]] 19:39, 16 May 2009 (UTC)
 
== hello ... ==
 
and thanks, David! [[User:Peter Schmitt|Peter Schmitt]] 15:34, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
 
== Moving ==
 
How can I move an article to a name occupied by a redirect?
Moving an article leaves a redirect, and this prevents moving another article there?
(It should be possible to delete a "useless" redirect.)
Is there some help page on this matter?  [[User:Peter Schmitt|Peter Schmitt]] 10:21, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
: I (probably) have discovered the solution: speedydelete.  [[User:Peter Schmitt|Peter Schmitt]] 13:11, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
:: You can move an article onto an existing redirect, as if the redirect doesn't exist. [[User:Caesar Schinas|Caesar Schinas]] 13:14, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
::: And when you use speedydelete, you should give the reason and signature as instructed on the speedydelete page. - <code><nowiki>{{speedydelete|REASON|~~~~}}</nowiki></code> [[User:Caesar Schinas|Caesar Schinas]] 13:16, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
 
== Vector rotation ==
 
David, I wrote a section [[Rotation_matrix#Vector_rotation|vector rotation]] as part of an article on the rotation matrix.  In it I derived eq. (1) of T. Möller and J. F. Hughes, which I believe is the quickest way to build a rotation matrix. I gave an alternative formula for the case that this equation breaks down. I believe that my alternative formula is a little faster than the Householder formula that you gave in [[Vector rotation]]. I'm quite interested in your comments. --[[User:Paul Wormer|Paul Wormer]] 11:26, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
 
==Stent==
Are changes to Stent ok? I merge in content from [[percutaneous transluminal coronary angioplasty]]. Feel free to edit or revert. - [[User:Robert Badgett|Robert Badgett]] 17:14, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
 
:: [[Stent]] changes look fine Robert. [[User:David E. Volk|David E. Volk]] 11:43, 30 May 2009 (UTC)
 
== Nominated [[Drugs banned from the Olympics]] ==
 
Hi, David. Please have a look at [http://en.citizendium.org/wiki/Talk:Drugs_banned_from_the_Olympics#Nominated_for_approval this]. [[User:Milton Beychok|Milton Beychok]] 19:15, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
 
== I would like to nominate [[Ketoconazole]] for approval ==
 
David, I would like to nominate [[Ketoconazole]] for approval. But first there a few quite minor revisions that are needed:
 
*The Related Articles subpage needs to be formatted into the current standard of using the <nowiki>{{r|article name}}</nowiki> template and the following format:
**Parent topics (listing [[Chemistry]], [[Health science]])
**Subtopics ([[listing Biochemistry]] and others?)
**Related topics (listing, at least the five articles that are in there now)
 
*Delete the External Links section header and move all of the current External Links section to the External Links subpage. Then move the References section header up so as to replace the empty space left by removing the External Links section.
 
*On the main article edit page, delete one of the two line spaces between the bottom of the infobox and the first sentence of the article.
 
Regards, [[User:Milton Beychok|Milton Beychok]] 03:06, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
 
:Hi, David. Have you had an opportunity to consider this yet? Please let me know. [[User:Milton Beychok|Milton Beychok]] 16:20, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
 
== Status change ==
 
David, I have changed the status of [[Neighbourhood (topology)]] to 1,
but it still is listed under "Developing". Is this list not updated immediately? Did I miss something? [[User:Peter Schmitt|Peter Schmitt]] 08:43, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
 
== Drugs banned from the Olympics ==
 
Please see [[Talk:Drugs_banned_from_the_Olympics#Re_co-approval|here]] for a few approval comments from Anthony Sebastian. --Joe ([[User:Approvals Manager|Approvals Manager]]) 23:14, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
 
== Nominations of [[Ketoconazole]] and [[Drugs banned from the Olympics]] ==
 
David, I just nominated [[Ketoconazole]] for approval.
 
As for [[Drugs banned from the Olympics]], please let me know when you have completed your edits as suggested by Anthony Sebastion and I will then update the version to be approved (on the Metadata template). Thanks, [[User:Milton Beychok|Milton Beychok]] 16:47, 30 May 2009 (UTC)
 
==Medical drug templates==
Can you please check this topic at the end of [[User_talk:Robert_Badgett]] and check whether I am making the correct recommendations? Thanks - [[User:Robert Badgett|Robert Badgett]] 17:45, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
 
== Drug article Approved! ==
 
Congratulations, David the Olympics drug article was just approved (I hope) -- this time the process took, with my new, improved instructions written by me and continuously updated as I go along, 24 minutes! [[User:Hayford Peirce|Hayford Peirce]] 16:54, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
 
== Re [[Steroids]] ==
 
David, I think the [[Steroids]] article very good as it stands.  Obviously, one could further elaborate, but you seem to have incorporated the essentials. As time permits, I will further evaluate the treatment of the medical aspects. I did a little tweaking of the Intro.
 
BTW: How do you create the images of the chemical structures?  Do you use a program for that? [[User:Anthony.Sebastian|Anthony.Sebastian]] 03:30, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
 
== Congrats, Keto article now approved! ==
 
Hi, David, the approval was just approved, correctly, I hope! [[User:Hayford Peirce|Hayford Peirce]] 22:23, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
 
== [[Henry's Law]] ==
 
Hi David, please see [http://en.citizendium.org/wiki?title=User_talk:Milton_Beychok&oldid=100511181#Boo-boo this]. [[User:D. Matt Innis|D. Matt Innis]] 02:23, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
 
== We need feedback ==
 
David, please look at [http://forum.citizendium.org/index.php/topic,2730.0.html This thread in the forums]. We need some feedback in that thread. [[User:Milton Beychok|Milton Beychok]] 06:38, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
 
== [[Scientific method]] ==
 
What do you think about initiating the approval process for the article on the [[scientific method]]?  It seems like it is well developed and ready to be approved.  (I have left the same message for Paul Wormer and Daniel Mietchen) --Joe ([[User:Approvals Manager|Approvals Manager]]) 17:51, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
 
== Arrows ==
 
David, Jitse Niesen gave [[User_talk:Paul_Wormer#Dissociation_constant|here]] an overview of the arrows you may use in reactions and equilibria.--[[User:Paul Wormer|Paul Wormer]] 10:08, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
 
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::::The arrows you use in the equilibrium reaction look a bit weird to me. I haven't read any chemistry texts lately, but I think \leftrightarrows or \leftrightharpoons give a symbol closer to what is commonly used:
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== Your comments about [[Joule-Thomson effect]] ==
 
Thanks for your comments. I really appreciate them since the only people who seem to study my articles are you, Paul Wormer and occasionally Howard Berkowitz. I have responded at [[Talk:Joule-Thomson effect]]. [[User:Milton Beychok|Milton Beychok]] 20:30, 11 July 2009 (UTC)
 
:David, have you had a chance yet to look at my responses at [[Talk:Joule-Thomson effect]]? [[User:Milton Beychok|Milton Beychok]] 04:48, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
 
== Chemical elements ==
 
David, what you wrote in your sandbox agrees to a large extent with what I wrote earlier (although I do have a few very minor comments on your text). From our agreeing I conclude that your (and mine) definition are pretty standard among chemists. Anthony Sebastian, who is not a chemist, changed my text to something more flowery and elevated, but to my feeling to a text that is not quite to the point. What do you say, how do we proceed from here?--[[User:Paul Wormer|Paul Wormer]] 13:29, 18 July 2009 (UTC)
 
::From here, we merge the two into a new document, perhaps here on my Sandbox (or yours), then move it to the chemical elements talk page and propose a switch be made.  Alternatively, we can "rule" such changes are necessary. [[User:David E. Volk|David E. Volk]] 13:36, 18 July 2009 (UTC)
 
== new user ==
 
I see you accepted an editor application recently from [[User:Donald_Paul_Martin]].  Editorship in the computers and engineering workgroups makes sense but the editorship in linguisitics is not immediately obvious.  Was that intentional?  There seems to be a bug that makes a person an editor in every single area that they show an interest in if they are accepted as editors when they first apply.  It's not always obvious whether that it what happened though. --[[User:Joe Quick|Joe Quick]] 03:15, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
 
== [[Amine_gas_treating/Draft]] ==
 
Milt has made some changes to the draft and suggests that it could be reapproved.  What do you think? --Joe ([[User:Approvals Manager|Approvals Manager]]) 15:47, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
 
:David, I just want to let you know that I corrected the poor wording that you pointed out in the [[:Amine gas treating]] article. I also apologise for not informing you sooner. [[User:Milton Beychok|Milton Beychok]] 18:44, 19 September 2009 (UTC)
 
::David, I have implemented an answer in the article to your further question about the amine concentrations in the circulating aqueous solution. See the draft article and also my Talk page. [[User:Milton Beychok|Milton Beychok]] 21:26, 19 September 2009 (UTC)
 
Re: your message about initiating the re-approval process.  Yes, just replace the old link in the url= field with the link for the new version to be approved.  Then put your name into the ToA editor= field, put five tildes in the now= field, and put the target date for approval into the date= field. Let me know if you need anything. --Joe ([[User:Approvals Manager|Approvals Manager]]) 13:00, 21 September 2009 (UTC)
 
:The link you provided in the url= field points to a version of the talk page.  I think you wanted http://en.citizendium.org/wiki?title=Amine_gas_treating/Draft&oldid=100577762 --Joe ([[User:Approvals Manager|Approvals Manager]]) 19:13, 21 September 2009 (UTC)
 
::Hi, David. As pointed out just above by the Approvals Manager, the link you provided for re-approving [[Amine gas treating/Draft]] still needs to be changed before it can be approved. Would you please do that? Thanks, [[User:Milton Beychok|Milton Beychok]] 16:27, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
 
== Citizendium charter drafting commitee nomination ==
 
Hi David,
You've been nominated by a fellow Citizendium member to be a candidate for election to the Citizendium charter drafting committee. 
 
If you haven't been following the discussion in the forums, we're getting ready to establish a charter for Citizendium that outlines the project's goals, ideals, and basic structure.  To get the process moving, we put together a plan for electing a group of Citizens to compose a draft of the charter, which will then be submitted for community review.  You can find more about the plan [[CZ:Charter_drafting_committee|here]].
 
You've been nominated by another Citizen to be a candidate for election to that committee.  The next step is up to you: you may either accept or decline the nomination by going [[CZ:Charter_drafting_committee/Nominations|here]] and following the instructions at the top of the page.
 
If you have any questions, just let me know. --[[User:Joe Quick|Joe Quick]] 14:54, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
 
== Nomination page ==
 
David, go to [[:CZ:Charter drafting committee]]. Then in the Nomination section you will see click [http://en.citizendium.org/wiki?title=CZ:Charter_drafting_committee/Nominations&action=edit here]. Do that and it will take you to where you can accept or decline your nomination. Or you can click on that same link just at the end of my previous sentence. Regards, [[User:Milton Beychok|Milton Beychok]] 03:39, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
 
== [[Amine gas treating]] ==
 
That [http://en.citizendium.org/wiki?title=Template%3AAmine_gas_treating%2FMetadata&diff=100579425&oldid=100579389 looks good]!  I took out your name from the time section.  I always forget if it's 3 or 5 ~ for time only. [[User:D. Matt Innis|D. Matt Innis]] 00:28, 23 September 2009 (UTC)
 
== Nomination of [[Joule-Thomson effect]] for approval ==
 
David, thanks for your nomination. However, you set the date for final approval as today's date (Sept. 26th). I don't think that is really what you meant. Please have a look at it. [[User:Milton Beychok|Milton Beychok]] 18:25, 26 September 2009 (UTC)


== Reapproval van der Waals equation ==
David,
Your opening quote is still true several hundred years later as I can attest!! My observation is that most scientists are the most rigid folks imaginable; spouting the party lines rather than thinking - PhD's being proof that they know the party lines. Has to do with peer-pressure and the desire to maintain one's job. Thus, few are reluctant to challenge the status quo! Frankly, the folks who should be most able to evaluate matters and come up with new approaches are the retired.Unfortunately, most are too tired or just no longer give a crap! [[User:Joel M. Williams|Joel M. Williams]] 20:04, 14 February 2011 (UTC)


Hi David, 2 years ago you approved [[van der Waals equation]]. Yesterday I made some updates (if you go the draft's history and compare the latest version with the October 9 2007 version you will see what has changed). Could you please approve the draft? Thank you. --[[User:Paul Wormer|Paul Wormer]] 08:18, 27 September 2009 (UTC)


== 10 editors that have never shown up ==
==Thanks==
Thanks for the nudge on adiponutrin - it had flown below ny radar, but I've added a para.[[User:Gareth Leng|Gareth Leng]] 10:16, 18 February 2011 (UTC)


Hi David,
== [[Liquefied natural gas]] ==


I don't know if you are following the discussion on the Editors and editorial issues forum thread, "How to recruit and retain active editors?", but Hayford claims you and Roger Lohmann have collectively and recently approved editorship for 10 editors that haven't done anything. (See that thread, reply #57). When I asked Hayford if he would contact them and ask them why they went to the trouble of having their credentials approved and then didn't do anything more, he said he didn't want to waste his time. In my view, finding out why editors are registering and then doing nothing else is an important issue. Would you be willing to contact those of the 10 that you confirmed and ask them that question? P.S. I am asking Roger Lohmann if he would do the same thing for the editors he approved  [[User:Dan Nessett|Dan Nessett]] 21:05, 28 September 2009 (UTC)
David, I would appreciate any comments/edits/discussion you may offer on the new article [[Liquefied natural gas]] (LNG). [[User:Milton Beychok|Milton Beychok]] 05:03, 23 February 2011 (UTC)


==Re approval of Joule-Thomson effect==
== About [[Hydrogen sulphide]] ==


David, I made some small changes to comply with comments by Karl Schubert. Then, Daniel Meitchen made some changes as well. Neither Karl nor Daniel updated the url of the version after they joined you in the approval. Would you please update to the latest url of the version to approve? Thanks, [[User:Milton Beychok|Milton Beychok]] 15:33, 1 October 2009 (UTC)
David, if you have the time, I would appreciate it if you reviewed [[Hydrogen sulphide]]. It could use some more content. [[User:Milton Beychok|Milton Beychok]] 22:08, 4 March 2011 (UTC)


== Just completed an article on petroleum crude oil ==
== New author you may want to chat with ==
David, I just finished an article on petroleum crude oil in my sandbox at [[User:Milton Beychok/Sandbox]]. Feel free to comment on its Talk page. I have not yet run it through a spell checker, so there are probably spelling errors. I will probably load it into the article namespace tomorrow afternoon/evening. [[User:Milton Beychok|Milton Beychok]] 08:58, 6 October 2009 (UTC)


:Thanks for all the typos that you picked up. I've fixed them all. By the way, just a gentle reminder that [[Henry's law]] still needs re-approval. Regards, [[User:Milton Beychok|Milton Beychok]] 21:19, 6 October 2009 (UTC)
Hi, David -- we have a new author, Samuel Herec, an undergrad at Northeastern who is a musician and is insterested in biomedical devices as well as audio technology. You seem to be just the guy to welcome him. [[User:Bruce M. Tindall|Bruce M. Tindall]] 23:56, 8 March 2011 (UTC)


== [[Joule-Thomson effect]] approval tomorrow ==
== Financial Report as of March 15, 2011 ==


David, please see comment by Hayford Pierce at [[Talk:Joule-Thomson effect]] [[User:Milton Beychok|Milton Beychok]] 22:33, 7 October 2009 (UTC)
Please read our [[CZ:Donate|Financial Report as of March 15, 2001]] for complete details on our financial history and our current financial situation. If you have any questions, please ask them on [[CZ Talk:Donate]]. - [[User:Milton Beychok|Milton Beychok]] 22:25, 18 March 2011 (UTC)


== [[Henry's law]] again ==
== The missing mini-periodical tables from the element articles. ==


Hi David, Milton has made what appears to be some [http://en.citizendium.org/wiki?title=Henry%27s_law%2FDraft&diff=100576092&oldid=100511152 minor, yet important content edits] to this article and suggests that we re-approve again. How does it look to you? [[User:D. Matt Innis|D. Matt Innis]] 17:45, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
David, as of yesterday morning, all of the element articles had a mini-periodical table in the infoboxes. Shortly, after Dan Nessett upgraded our Mediawiki software yesterday evening, I noticed that all of the mini-periodic tables had disappeared from the infoboxes. I immediately informed him by posting in the "Technical Issues" forum board (see [http://forum.citizendium.org/index.php/topic,3978.0.html Topic 3978.0] and by sending him an email as well.


== Barbecue ==
As he has told you, he has found out why this occurred but has not yet figured out how to resolve it ... but I am confident that he will do so in the near future. [[User:Milton Beychok|Milton Beychok]] 22:12, 27 April 2011 (CDT)


Now that [[barbecue]] exists, may we expect a chemical analysis of good Texas sauce? [[User:Howard C. Berkowitz|Howard C. Berkowitz]] 19:37, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
== Finished revising 112 of the chemical element articles ==


==Asking for help with [[Thermodynamics]]==
Hi,David: I just finished revising all 112 chemical element articles (from [[Hydrogen]] through [[Copernicium]]. They all now use the [[Template:Elem Infobox]] and they are now all editable.


I think [[Thermodynamics]] was originally a port from WP, but not sure. It would be most useful if we could get it to the approval stage. Would you *please* review it and revise it as necessary? Does it need a section on non-equilibrium thermodynamics?
During the course of that work, David Yamakuchi contacted me as to what I was doing ... which I explained and told him why I was doing it. We came to an amicable agreement and he revised some of the templates he had created. You can read our exchange of postings on my Talk page.


Also, [[Thermodynamics]] has links to [[Laws of thermodynamics]] ... but when I go to [[Laws of Thermodynamics]], I find it to be an almost useless stub of an article. Is the much better "Laws of thermodynamics" section of [[Thermodynamics]] inclusive enough for me to ask for speedy deletion of the useless [[Laws of thermodynamics]] stub?
David had done a tremendous amount of ingenious work that involved about 5 or 6 subpages for each each element (a total of about 560 to 672 subpages). As I found in going through all of the articles, it is simply not possible to come up with any automatic "one size fits all" method for creating 112 chemical element articles. It required manually editing of each of them. It is a complex system and it took me many hours to get familiar with it.


Please respond on [[Talk:Thermodynamics]]. [[User:Milton Beychok|Milton Beychok]] 19:16, 10 October 2009 (UTC)
I agree it would be nice to make it much more simple, but I don't know to do it. In any event, they are now all editable and consistent, although most of them (90% or more) are "bare bones" articles that need much more content.


== [[Volkpages testpage]] ==
Milt


I deleted the talkpage, did you want me to delete the main page as well? [[User:D. Matt Innis|D. Matt Innis]] 15:41, 20 October 2009 (UTC)
== Blocked account showing inappropriate categories ==


:Get that bug! Let me know when to unlock the subpages template.  If you leave a message on my talk it does contact me at work through email, so leave me a message and I'll get to it as soon as I see it. You can also let Hayford know that you've discussed it with me and he'll let you in.  The main thing is that we remember to lock it once you've finished (I think I have Alzheimers!)  [[User:D. Matt Innis|D. Matt Innis]] 15:58, 20 October 2009 (UTC)
This account is no longer a member of the categories CZ Editors | Chemistry Authors | Chemistry Editors | Biochemistry Members | Biology Authors | Physics Authors | Mathematics Authors | Music Authors | Health Sciences Authors but the userpage has been protected preventing Citizens from remedying this situation. [[User:David Finn|David Finn]] 07:43, 30 November 2011 (UTC)


::Oh my goodness, I'm sorry, I just couldn't resist [http://en.citizendium.org/wiki?title=Talk:Volkpages_test2&curid=100138079&diff=100591263&oldid=100591261] - (I think it's part of the first stages of Altzheimers!) [[User:D. Matt Innis|D. Matt Innis]] 16:22, 20 October 2009 (UTC)
:I don't think you're right about that. My understanding is that an Editor stays an Editor unless the EC says so, even if they leave or are banned. [[User:Peter Jackson|Peter Jackson]] 11:15, 30 November 2011 (UTC)


==Stumbling block==
::CZ:Editors ''should be a complete list of active CZ editors'', and David is listed [http://en.citizendium.org/wiki/Category:Chemistry_Editors at the chemistry Workgroup] as being an active Editor, which is of no use to anyone using the Chemistry workgroup to find active Editors as well as being a misrepresentation. Why would it be desirable to list someone who has gone through our formal resignation process as an Editor, active or otherwise? [[User:David Finn|David Finn]] 11:34, 30 November 2011 (UTC)
I previously applied for a specialist editorship. The stumbling block was this:


'Professional certification (if it exists and is required for all practicing members of your profession). At least two of the following: three different professional memberships; at least three presentations in your field; or two papers in peer reviewed journals or well-respected trade journals in your field; or another type of significant speaking, publishing, practicum, etc., expected of professionals in your field.'
::I think in this case your understanding is mistaken. You would be referring to [http://ec.citizendium.org/wiki/EC:2011-017 this EC motion] where the outcome was clearly stated that only an official resignation from CZ would be enough to have ones categories removed. It could be argued from the poor wording of the Motion that a separate resignation was needed for the EC, but that is not supported by the statements of the people who voted for it, and would in any event be a ridiculous proposition. We already have enough hoops for people to jump through to become ex-Citizens without requiring that resignation letters be made in duplicate.


Although I have a university degree I am not published. One of my university articles was published in an undergraduate newspaper years ago as an honours student, but as the newspaper in no longer online and there are no archives I can point it to, that was not considered acceptable. I have never engaged in public speaking either, nor am I a member of three different professional groups. The current editorship guidelines are restrictive. Rock musicians and the like would never be accepted as editors, same with hobby editors, and sports editors. Very few publish in 'peer-reviewed journals'. [[User:Meg Ireland|Meg Ireland]] 21:59, 20 October 2009 (UTC)
::It would appear that EC:2011-017 makes it clear that the categories listed above should be removed immediately. [[User:David Finn|David Finn]] 08:02, 1 December 2011 (UTC)


==Fenske equation==
:::"Only an official request for nullification of one's Editorship, to be eventually carried out by the Constabulary, is valid." seems clear enough. On the other hand, it does seem reasonable that David should not be listed as an ''active'' editor. [[User:Peter Jackson|Peter Jackson]] 11:16, 1 December 2011 (UTC)


David, to the best of my ability, I have responded to your comments at [[Talk:Fenske equation]]. Thanks for your review ... and your questions really gave me a mental workout, to say the least. [[User:Milton Beychok|Milton Beychok]] 06:55, 22 October 2009 (UTC)
::::No less unreasonable than having a list of Editors, active or otherwise, that consists partly of non-Citizens who have requested they be removed from the project. As you will know that Motion was initiated because Martin had resigned on the Forum, resigned on his userpage, but was still making flyby Editor "Rulings" when it suited - the Motion was intended to quantify that a formal resignation was required before the resignation was taken seriously. It was never meant to become a list of non-Citizens. I also seriously doubt that the many Citizens who have voluntarily resigned have been informed that they must resign in triplicate. Like I said, I hope your interpretation is incorrect because it would not only be a ridiculous situation but probably illegal under the Charter. [[User:David Finn|David Finn]] 07:42, 2 December 2011 (UTC)

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Resigning Biology Editorship

I signed up for CZ and requested to be a Chemistry Editor, based on my PhD in Chemistry. After looking over my publications, Larry Sanger approved me to be a Biology Editor as well. Given the mood of the current Editorial Council, a council on which I once sat, and their new standards, I feel it only appropriate to resign this editorship. I do so not to make a public statement of any kind, but because I am unsure that my education, research interests and publications would necessarily qualify me under the current standards. David E. Volk 19:15, 26 January 2011 (UTC)

New Chemistry editor, Joel M. Williams

Hi, David:

We have a new Chemistry editor. Perhaps you may wish to post a welcome message on his Talk page. Regards, Milton Beychok 02:49, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

David, Your opening quote is still true several hundred years later as I can attest!! My observation is that most scientists are the most rigid folks imaginable; spouting the party lines rather than thinking - PhD's being proof that they know the party lines. Has to do with peer-pressure and the desire to maintain one's job. Thus, few are reluctant to challenge the status quo! Frankly, the folks who should be most able to evaluate matters and come up with new approaches are the retired.Unfortunately, most are too tired or just no longer give a crap! Joel M. Williams 20:04, 14 February 2011 (UTC)


Thanks

Thanks for the nudge on adiponutrin - it had flown below ny radar, but I've added a para.Gareth Leng 10:16, 18 February 2011 (UTC)

Liquefied natural gas

David, I would appreciate any comments/edits/discussion you may offer on the new article Liquefied natural gas (LNG). Milton Beychok 05:03, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

About Hydrogen sulphide

David, if you have the time, I would appreciate it if you reviewed Hydrogen sulphide. It could use some more content. Milton Beychok 22:08, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

New author you may want to chat with

Hi, David -- we have a new author, Samuel Herec, an undergrad at Northeastern who is a musician and is insterested in biomedical devices as well as audio technology. You seem to be just the guy to welcome him. Bruce M. Tindall 23:56, 8 March 2011 (UTC)

Financial Report as of March 15, 2011

Please read our Financial Report as of March 15, 2001 for complete details on our financial history and our current financial situation. If you have any questions, please ask them on CZ Talk:Donate. - Milton Beychok 22:25, 18 March 2011 (UTC)

The missing mini-periodical tables from the element articles.

David, as of yesterday morning, all of the element articles had a mini-periodical table in the infoboxes. Shortly, after Dan Nessett upgraded our Mediawiki software yesterday evening, I noticed that all of the mini-periodic tables had disappeared from the infoboxes. I immediately informed him by posting in the "Technical Issues" forum board (see Topic 3978.0 and by sending him an email as well.

As he has told you, he has found out why this occurred but has not yet figured out how to resolve it ... but I am confident that he will do so in the near future. Milton Beychok 22:12, 27 April 2011 (CDT)

Finished revising 112 of the chemical element articles

Hi,David: I just finished revising all 112 chemical element articles (from Hydrogen through Copernicium. They all now use the Template:Elem Infobox and they are now all editable.

During the course of that work, David Yamakuchi contacted me as to what I was doing ... which I explained and told him why I was doing it. We came to an amicable agreement and he revised some of the templates he had created. You can read our exchange of postings on my Talk page.

David had done a tremendous amount of ingenious work that involved about 5 or 6 subpages for each each element (a total of about 560 to 672 subpages). As I found in going through all of the articles, it is simply not possible to come up with any automatic "one size fits all" method for creating 112 chemical element articles. It required manually editing of each of them. It is a complex system and it took me many hours to get familiar with it.

I agree it would be nice to make it much more simple, but I don't know to do it. In any event, they are now all editable and consistent, although most of them (90% or more) are "bare bones" articles that need much more content.

Milt

Blocked account showing inappropriate categories

This account is no longer a member of the categories CZ Editors | Chemistry Authors | Chemistry Editors | Biochemistry Members | Biology Authors | Physics Authors | Mathematics Authors | Music Authors | Health Sciences Authors but the userpage has been protected preventing Citizens from remedying this situation. David Finn 07:43, 30 November 2011 (UTC)

I don't think you're right about that. My understanding is that an Editor stays an Editor unless the EC says so, even if they leave or are banned. Peter Jackson 11:15, 30 November 2011 (UTC)
CZ:Editors should be a complete list of active CZ editors, and David is listed at the chemistry Workgroup as being an active Editor, which is of no use to anyone using the Chemistry workgroup to find active Editors as well as being a misrepresentation. Why would it be desirable to list someone who has gone through our formal resignation process as an Editor, active or otherwise? David Finn 11:34, 30 November 2011 (UTC)
I think in this case your understanding is mistaken. You would be referring to this EC motion where the outcome was clearly stated that only an official resignation from CZ would be enough to have ones categories removed. It could be argued from the poor wording of the Motion that a separate resignation was needed for the EC, but that is not supported by the statements of the people who voted for it, and would in any event be a ridiculous proposition. We already have enough hoops for people to jump through to become ex-Citizens without requiring that resignation letters be made in duplicate.
It would appear that EC:2011-017 makes it clear that the categories listed above should be removed immediately. David Finn 08:02, 1 December 2011 (UTC)
"Only an official request for nullification of one's Editorship, to be eventually carried out by the Constabulary, is valid." seems clear enough. On the other hand, it does seem reasonable that David should not be listed as an active editor. Peter Jackson 11:16, 1 December 2011 (UTC)
No less unreasonable than having a list of Editors, active or otherwise, that consists partly of non-Citizens who have requested they be removed from the project. As you will know that Motion was initiated because Martin had resigned on the Forum, resigned on his userpage, but was still making flyby Editor "Rulings" when it suited - the Motion was intended to quantify that a formal resignation was required before the resignation was taken seriously. It was never meant to become a list of non-Citizens. I also seriously doubt that the many Citizens who have voluntarily resigned have been informed that they must resign in triplicate. Like I said, I hope your interpretation is incorrect because it would not only be a ridiculous situation but probably illegal under the Charter. David Finn 07:42, 2 December 2011 (UTC)
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