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== Obviously, this is not encyclopedic ==
== Back to my sandbox for now ==
This is obviously not a typical encyclopedia article, and no such thing is needed; already in Wikipedia, one can read about all the little ways a town such as Paris, TN, likes to advertise itselfin the public eye.  I hope for this article to be tended by everyday people who lived in, or are closely associated with, Paris, TN, and I wish for it to grow without hype or interference from the Chamber of Commerce, Lion's Club, Kiwanis Club, the Women's Club, Daughters of the American Revolution, the Masonic lodge, the Shriners, the Ku Klux Klan, the Farmer's co-op, industry, the school boards, the police, the hospital, the sheriff, the mayor, the county commissioners or any member of the club of any sort, or of the government.  It's not that I disapprove of any of those institutions, all of which do much civic good in modern times.  But they represent "the powers that be" and as such, they seem incapable of providing an adequate reporting about what it was really like to live in Paris, TN, (and by analogy, many other small towns throughout the American South), and what it was like to live there in the past for people of all stripes and income levels.  It being 2020, I ''want'' to talk about the elephants in the room, dredge up the hard questions and uncover the past as it really was for everyday people.  I want to delve all the way back to the arrival of settlers in Henry County.  Paris is neither better nor worse than any of these other small town in the rural American South.  But Paris is where I was born and raised, and from that area, my ancestors lives going back several generations.  And I know from firsthand experience some of the bitter fruits of slavery that manifested themselves vividly in the 1960's of my childhood.  And I remember vividly the widespread distrust, suspicion, prejudice or hatred of the white blue collar populace, of which my family was a part, towards outsiders, people of color, Jews, Catholics, and the federal government.  It is, for me, a boil which needs to be lanced, a most unpleasant chore, but with healing intentions.[[User:Pat Palmer|Pat Palmer]] ([[User talk:Pat Palmer|talk]]) 18:21, 6 September 2020 (UTC)
This was in such bad shape that I've moved everything back to my sandbox for now.  Hope to bring it back out for collaboration sometime before long.[[User:Pat Palmer|Pat Palmer]] ([[User talk:Pat Palmer|talk]]) 14:44, 12 September 2020 (UTC)


== Key Sources, besides our memories, will be: ==
== This page under construction ==
I am working as the lead author on this article, which is under construction. I don't yet know what it's final format will be.  It is what I would call an experiment.  However, one of its goals is to provide a more complete history of the town and county as regards race relations.  The existing history as found on the web is missing huge chunks of interest. A great deal of important information about what happened in the past has been deliberately forgotten, not recorded, actively discouraged from being talked about, or plain old ignored.  This may be in part because the elements related to race relations are simply embarrassing and people would prefer to pretend none of it ever happened. Nowhere was history buried and forgotten and glossed over more fully, with more active enthusiasm, than in the Southern United States.  Trevor Noah, in his auto-biography "Born a Crime", notes that these days even Germany openly and deliberately teaches to children what happened during the Holocaust in World War II, to prevent it ever happening again.  But in the U.S., not so much.  He wrote:


* In ''The West Tennessee Historical Society Papers'', 1979, “Antebellum Henry County” by Roger Raymond Van Dyke
<blockquote>
In American, the history of racism is taught like this: "There was slavery and then there was Jim Crow and then there was Martin Luther King Jr. and now it's done."<ref>"Born a Crime" by Trevor Noah, p. 183:</ref>
</blockquote>


== Reminders, seriously missing stuff ==
[[User:Pat Palmer|Pat Palmer]] ([[User talk:Pat Palmer|talk]]) 17:43, 9 February 2021 (UTC)
* Rabies, Polio, Vietnam, MLK, pol. parties, blue laws, Iraq War
 
== Note to self on needed reference ==
There is a need to find and place the reference on pre-civil-war schools.  Maybe also the ref on education for free negroes.[[User:Pat Palmer|Pat Palmer]] ([[User talk:Pat Palmer|talk]]) 15:14, 22 March 2021 (UTC)
 
== About former county high schools ==
Before consolidation, there were high schools at Buchanan, Cottage Grove, Henry, Puryear and Springville. [[User:Pat Palmer|Pat Palmer]] ([[User talk:Pat Palmer|talk]]) 13:39, 6 May 2022 (CDT)
 
== question... ==
 
What is a hushpuppy?  There used to be a brand of suede shoes called hushpuppies.
 
This article seems to imply it is a food item...  [[User:George Swan|George Swan]] ([[User talk:George Swan|talk]]) 10:43, 6 August 2022 (CDT)
 
:In the southern U.S., a hushpuppy is a deep-fried, corn-meal fritter or dumpling, with onions that is typically served with fried fish. A photo here: https://www.thespruceeats.com/thmb/rpGjtoavQXrIUDQ19Cya-fWOuGc=/940x0/filters:no_upscale():max_bytes(150000):strip_icc():format(webp)/beer-batter-hushpuppies-22-56a8c08c3df78cf772a04ebd.jpg [[User:Pat Palmer|Pat Palmer]] ([[User talk:Pat Palmer|talk]]) 13:06, 12 September 2022 (CDT)
 
== Old 23rd district info ==
Would like to work this info into the article at some point: Much of the former Henry County 23rd voting district became part of the Tennessee National Wildlife Refuge system after the creation of Kentucky Lake in 1945.  See https://www.radionwtn.com/2019/07/29/history-of-old-23rd-district-on-program-of-historical-society-meeting/ [[User:Pat Palmer|Pat Palmer]] ([[User talk:Pat Palmer|talk]]) 12:08, 13 September 2022 (CDT)
 
== old image==
File:800px-Henry County Tennessee Incorporated and Unincorporated areas Henry Highlighted 4733400.svg.png<br>
Here's the prior image used for the top of this article.  Also, this one was used earlier but not now: File:Confederate monument.jpg [[User:Pat Palmer|Pat Palmer]] ([[User talk:Pat Palmer|talk]]) 08:52, 16 January 2023 (CST)
 
== needing further re-org ==
* The basic town description should come to the top, and the history parts to the bottom, maybe.
** Maybe the lead-in just briefly mentions the historical highlights, such as the Chickasaw, cotton/tobacco and slavery, Jim Crow and segregation, and factory displacements.

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Back to my sandbox for now

This was in such bad shape that I've moved everything back to my sandbox for now. Hope to bring it back out for collaboration sometime before long.Pat Palmer (talk) 14:44, 12 September 2020 (UTC)

This page under construction

I am working as the lead author on this article, which is under construction. I don't yet know what it's final format will be. It is what I would call an experiment. However, one of its goals is to provide a more complete history of the town and county as regards race relations. The existing history as found on the web is missing huge chunks of interest. A great deal of important information about what happened in the past has been deliberately forgotten, not recorded, actively discouraged from being talked about, or plain old ignored. This may be in part because the elements related to race relations are simply embarrassing and people would prefer to pretend none of it ever happened. Nowhere was history buried and forgotten and glossed over more fully, with more active enthusiasm, than in the Southern United States. Trevor Noah, in his auto-biography "Born a Crime", notes that these days even Germany openly and deliberately teaches to children what happened during the Holocaust in World War II, to prevent it ever happening again. But in the U.S., not so much. He wrote:

In American, the history of racism is taught like this: "There was slavery and then there was Jim Crow and then there was Martin Luther King Jr. and now it's done."[1]

Pat Palmer (talk) 17:43, 9 February 2021 (UTC)

Note to self on needed reference

There is a need to find and place the reference on pre-civil-war schools. Maybe also the ref on education for free negroes.Pat Palmer (talk) 15:14, 22 March 2021 (UTC)

About former county high schools

Before consolidation, there were high schools at Buchanan, Cottage Grove, Henry, Puryear and Springville. Pat Palmer (talk) 13:39, 6 May 2022 (CDT)

question...

What is a hushpuppy? There used to be a brand of suede shoes called hushpuppies.

This article seems to imply it is a food item... George Swan (talk) 10:43, 6 August 2022 (CDT)

In the southern U.S., a hushpuppy is a deep-fried, corn-meal fritter or dumpling, with onions that is typically served with fried fish. A photo here: https://www.thespruceeats.com/thmb/rpGjtoavQXrIUDQ19Cya-fWOuGc=/940x0/filters:no_upscale():max_bytes(150000):strip_icc():format(webp)/beer-batter-hushpuppies-22-56a8c08c3df78cf772a04ebd.jpg Pat Palmer (talk) 13:06, 12 September 2022 (CDT)

Old 23rd district info

Would like to work this info into the article at some point: Much of the former Henry County 23rd voting district became part of the Tennessee National Wildlife Refuge system after the creation of Kentucky Lake in 1945. See https://www.radionwtn.com/2019/07/29/history-of-old-23rd-district-on-program-of-historical-society-meeting/ Pat Palmer (talk) 12:08, 13 September 2022 (CDT)

old image

File:800px-Henry County Tennessee Incorporated and Unincorporated areas Henry Highlighted 4733400.svg.png
Here's the prior image used for the top of this article. Also, this one was used earlier but not now: File:Confederate monument.jpg Pat Palmer (talk) 08:52, 16 January 2023 (CST)

needing further re-org

  • The basic town description should come to the top, and the history parts to the bottom, maybe.
    • Maybe the lead-in just briefly mentions the historical highlights, such as the Chickasaw, cotton/tobacco and slavery, Jim Crow and segregation, and factory displacements.
  1. ↑ "Born a Crime" by Trevor Noah, p. 183:
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