User talk:Aleta Curry/Archive 5

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Aleta stops into the forums somewhere between 0630 and 0900, and works on the wiki between about 1200 and 1500, time and weather permitting.

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Aleta Curry

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Names

Thanks to the fragmented discussion, it came up here once again: http://mail.citizendium.org/pipermail/cz-biology/2007-October/date.html Kim van der Linde 17:18, 25 October 2007 (CDT)

Thanks for the link. Aw, Kim, it's just too hard....Aleta Curry 19:47, 25 October 2007 (CDT)

Tallong

Are you from Tallong? The photos make me want to visit. --Joe Quick 22:42, 28 October 2007 (CDT)

I am! Come over any time! It ain't fancy, but we can make you welcome!Aleta Curry 22:52, 28 October 2007 (CDT)

Well, it's a bit of a walk from Chicago, but I have had a yearning to visit Australia for some years now. Let me think of a way to tie it into Latin American studies so I can get somebody else to cover my expenses. Maybe indigenous rights? Australia is really interesting from that perspective. --Joe Quick 23:03, 28 October 2007 (CDT)

Photos

If you compile a list of all photos you've uploaded to CZ I will fix them ;). --Robert W King 08:10, 31 October 2007 (CDT)

This should work. Chris Day (talk) 08:48, 31 October 2007 (CDT)

Robert, Bless you my son. Chris, you rock! How did you do that?! I've been wondering how to keep track of photos I've uploaded and was about to bug Stephen.

By the by, Robert, since Joe is going to make his way out here eventually, you could fly or swim over, too, and take lots of pictures of bugs and wildlife and things!

Aleta Curry 14:57, 31 October 2007 (CDT)

Buy me a ticket and I'm there. ;D --Robert W King 16:24, 31 October 2007 (CDT)

From my first bestseller or first million--it's a promise!  :) Aleta Curry 16:27, 31 October 2007 (CDT)

Ooh! We could all celebrate our Nth approved article in Tallong! --Joe Quick 00:53, 1 November 2007 (CDT)

Fine by me. Other draws: my husband is really, really, nice and I'm a good cook. Just make sure you like dogs, cats, horses and wildlife! (And don't freak out with SNAKES and BUGS!) Aleta Curry

Mini foxies

© Photo: Mini Foxie Club of Australia
Add image caption here.

This is all set to go. Stephen Ewen 00:41, 1 November 2007 (CDT)

Also, you need to get emails for Image:Judell_Lucky_-_tri-colour_Miniature_Fox_Terrier_Bitch.jpg and Image:Jackaroo_Mini_Foxie.jpg, please. Stephen Ewen 01:30, 1 November 2007 (CDT)

Isn't Lucky's photo covered in that original permission e-mail? I would think so, since that was first photo I uploaded. But not to worry; I'll take care of all in any case. Aleta Curry 16:34, 1 November 2007 (CDT)

It's not covered. See the email. Stephen Ewen 21:24, 1 November 2007 (CDT)

Move

Pedigree_papers drastically needed the adjective. Stephen Ewen 21:06, 1 November 2007 (CDT)

No problemo, except of course now the link I left Jeff doesn't work. Did you move the subpages, too, Speedy Gonzalez? Aleta Curry 21:10, 1 November 2007 (CDT)

Oh my, what a mess :-) What were yooou thinking :D --Matt Innis (Talk) 21:15, 1 November 2007 (CDT)

What? Where? WhadidIdo now??? Aleta Curry 21:19, 1 November 2007 (CDT)

I moved the subpages. Just leave a message at Jeff's talk. Stephen Ewen 21:23, 1 November 2007 (CDT)

Cool. Not that serious--I'm sure he's got it! Aleta Curry 21:26, 1 November 2007 (CDT)

Now I'm totally mixed up. There is a papers(disambig) and a paper(disambig)?!Jeffrey Scott Bernstein 21:32, 1 November 2007 (CDT)

Hehe, I liked the Guantanimo Bay part :D ... whatamess --Matt Innis (Talk) 21:45, 1 November 2007 (CDT)

Yes, there should be two disambig pages for paper and papers. --Robert W King 21:46, 1 November 2007 (CDT)

Okay, that's part's done--and it's not a mess, you meanie! P Aleta Curry 21:49, 1 November 2007 (CDT)

Wait, I'm befuddled. Some of the "paper(disambig)" info can also fit on the "papers (disambig)". Should I move it all so the information is available on both disambig. pages?Maybe someone else should evaluate it all; I'm dizzy.Jeffrey Scott Bernstein 21:52, 1 November 2007 (CDT)

LOL at Jeff. Yes, I think both disambigs should be combined. Stephen Ewen 21:59, 1 November 2007 (CDT)

Okay, one at a time:

We have

paper, paper (disambiguation) (for singular), papers (disambig for the plural), and pedigree papers. That should do it. Aleta Curry 21:55, 1 November 2007 (CDT)

Frustration

Alack and alas -- my work has consumed me today as I have a conference presentation next week. I may did start an article called Frustration. Grrrrr!! Thanks much for looking for me though Aleta - I really missed the party. The Odd Couple indeed!-- who said an encyclopedia couldn't be camp!?!! I will be back... --Ian Johnson 18:07, 7 November 2007 (CST)

Well, we certainly missed you, but all the vodka, not to mention Hayford's cocktails, took the edge off! See ya next month! Aleta Curry 21:07, 7 November 2007 (CST)

new friend

I found you a friend! User:David_Joseph_Butler See where he's from? Sheesh, I think I'm channeling my mother... --Joe Quick 16:50, 9 November 2007 (CST)

Hey, cool! I'll drop him a note. 'Course, NSW is pretty large! But who knows--we might be neighbours! Aleta Curry 20:08, 11 November 2007 (CST)

Dull thorns.

--Robert W King 21:45, 12 November 2007 (CST)

That took me a minute--LOL. What soured you on them?

Listen, when you come out here, come in Spring (this time of year) and you can see a wild rose in bloom. Very pretty. Not nearly as showy as the others, but with a sweet, understated beauty. But what do I know? I was one of those odd little girls who pulled up the flowers of weeds and proudly presented them to my mother....Aleta Curry 21:51, 12 November 2007 (CST)

Plantstinctionist!!!!!! --Robert W King 21:53, 12 November 2007 (CST)

Stop! I just made one of those loud, snorty laughs and dribbled coffee onto my keyboard! Aleta Curry 21:57, 12 November 2007 (CST)

Approvals

I will email the Biology editors to ask for some action from them. Approvals should be a priority, --Martin Baldwin-Edwards 06:25, 13 November 2007 (CST)

Allrighty, then. Aleta Curry 13:40, 13 November 2007 (CST)

Film, TV, etc.

So, Aleta, we've been agreeing with each other for several months now about the need for a film workgroup. What can we do about it? Is there any evidence that the new workgroup requests page is leading to action? (Oh, and regarding dancers and opera singers in film: touché!) --Eric Winesett 22:07, 14 November 2007 (CST)

Yes, true--it *is* getting to be a bit like "You're right, Eric". "Thank you, you're right, too, Aleta." "Thank you, and you're right as well"....

What can we do about it? Well, we can do what Kim Van der Linde did with the Tree of Life thing, which is to simply start adding the category as if there is one already. I think we might put it to Larry for at least tacit permission, first, though.

Another point: I guess we could use "needs workgroup", too? I use this for fashion, e.g. Is it disingenuous to use it here? Aleta Curry 14:24, 15 November 2007 (CST)

I think in this case "needs workgroup" would just be replaced with Media and/or Visual Arts by someone not privy to our little plan. (I've actually considered applying for editorship in visual arts just so I could deal with this issue more officially. As far as I know, there are currently no active editors in Visual Arts.) -Eric Winesett 22:16, 15 November 2007 (CST)

Is the new requests page leading to action? I think it *will*, eventually, but is being deferred because of--for lack of a better term--more pressing matters. I know one could easily argue that there is little more pressing than the organisation of articles, and I mentioned this when the Core Articles initiative was started, and Larry's response was that many things might change anyway once the workgroups were sorted out. I and others have also raised the matter of workgroups at other times, and it is my feeling that everyone, including Larry, thinks this is important, but there are only so many hours and all that.

Dancers and opera singers in film-- :) Well, it's not something that would be the first thing which came to mind, is it?

Aleta Curry 14:04, 15 November 2007 (CST)

p.s. - do you *really* sign on, check your watchlist, make your edits, pick a subject and write an intelligent stub in less than 10 minutes??? It's a bird...it's a plane...it's SuperEric!! Aleta Curry 14:12, 15 November 2007 (CST)

Well, no. I'm actually a slow writer because I just can't hit that save button until I'm happy with every word—even for a stub. But the point was that I only have time to write stubs, even if someone else could write a developed article just as fast. (Once I created an article with subpages and spent a while writing a stub on its main page. When I saved for the first time, I got an edit conflict. Another Citizen had written a nanostub and commented "Don't forget to create the main article!") -Eric Winesett 22:16, 15 November 2007 (CST)

Yeah, I'm like that, too. But having lost a few masterpieces, I'm starting to reconsider. Actually, that's a lie--I really *can't* let people see my first edits--so I usually start in Word and copy over! Aleta Curry 22:36, 15 November 2007 (CST)

So where do you stand on the specifics? Film by itself, film and TV together, or some other variation? -Eric Winesett 22:16, 15 November 2007 (CST)

I don't think I can answer that until I know what the exact parameters of the workgroups are going to be. I mean, what SIZE division are we talking about? There's certainly enough for a separate Film Workgroup and a separate Television Workgroup. But I'd have no philosophical problem with a flim and television workgroup, either. But if something like Yoga gets its own workgroup (which I don't think it merits under our present system), and space exploration gets its own workgroup, film and television both should.Aleta Curry 22:36, 15 November 2007 (CST)

Editor welcome

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Welcome, new editor! We're very glad you've joined us. Here are pointers for a quick start. Also, when you get a chance, please read The Editor Role. You can look at Getting Started and our help system for other introductory pages. It is also important, for project-wide matters, to join the Citizendium-L (broadcast) mailing list. Announcements are also available via Twitter. You can test out editing in the sandbox if you'd like. If you need help to get going, the forum is one option. That's also where we discuss policy and proposals. You can ask any administrator for help, too. Just put a note on their "talk" page. Again, welcome and thank you! We appreciate your willingness to share your expertise, and we hope to see your edits on Recent changes soon. --Larry Sanger 09:20, 19 November 2007 (CST)

'nother friend for ya

User:Michael_Handley - his bio is all about German Shepherd Dogs. --Joe Quick

Dance

I changed the introduction on the article about dance. I believe that i made an improvement. If you believe that i have failed to mention a integral part of your previous definition, you should contact me, and i wil do my best to integrate two different versions into a third. Micha van den Berg 20:58, 22 November 2007 (CST)

Thanks--didn't realise you were online. I've already made a change. Aleta Curry 21:09, 22 November 2007 (CST)

I think we have to be carefull, dance needs to be able to define both modern art and dance, tribal dances and animals matings dances. I changes the definition again, does it look better? I think we need to create two definitions of dance. 1) very abstract and trancendial. 2) The other more ritualised forms of movement that can have different names and meanings in different societies. Also try and respond on my talk page so i will get a message. Micha van den Berg 21:33, 22 November 2007 (CST)

MiniFoxies

Congratulations! Looks like you are the first to obtain what I'd call "blanket permission" from an entity to use their photos. This means the permission gets a separate special page and its own template to tag photos, {{Bypermission-noreuse-minifoxieclub}}. This makes it easier in the future when using photos from them - the template already links to the permission. Stephen Ewen 23:41, 22 November 2007 (CST)

Steve, thanks for all your effort. I've just made a deletion: those letters contained my personal e-mail address--the one used by family and friends--which I naturally don't want floating about the web. Thanks again. Aleta Curry 16:09, 25 November 2007 (CST)

Okay, I've locked the page now. Stephen Ewen 17:53, 25 November 2007 (CST)

Opening sentence of the vitamin C page

Hi, thanks for the help! It is important to be clear in the opening sentence of an article, indeed... Would you agree with the sentence I propose? Thanks in advance. Pierre-Alain Gouanvic 15:38, 25 November 2007 (CST)

Yes, replied at the talk page--that's excellent! No wonder you're a "terminologist"! Aleta Curry 16:02, 25 November 2007 (CST)

Garden defs

Any reason why you are not using the def templates on all the entries in the Garden/Catalogs or is that the long term plan? This brings up an interesting question about whether this should be on the related Articles page and, if so, what should a catalog on this topic look like? I don't have answers, just some random thoughts. Chris Day (talk) 03:22, 26 November 2007 (CST)

"No", "yes", and then again, "no". I'm having a bit of trouble with this, for reasons you've already realised. For one thing, sometimes my definitions also had a note, like for Greenhouse, "see also Shadehouse, below" or some such. Well, obviously, that works in a list, but not in a template definition. When I tried to add a note like "see item XYZ below" or "XYZ- aka PQR-sometimes called ABC" it messed up the template, and I didn't see a way to fix it. Had the same problem in Animalier; when I tried to do the catalogue and the templates and say, for example, that George Earl was the father of Maud Earl, below.

The other problem is of course as you say: what the heck is the difference between "related articles" and "catalogs". The template for related articles says something like "articles about subject ABC". Well, that's not exactly true as I see it. For instance, at Tallong I would think that Southern Highlands, NSW and the Apple Industry and the Royal Easter Show were all related, but obviously, none of those things is about Tallong itself per se.

Finally, back to catalogs: when do we put the catalog at the page, as I began doing at Garden/catalogs, and when do we place a list of catalogs, as I did at banana/catalog?

I don't have any answers, either!

Aleta Curry 14:35, 26 November 2007 (CST)