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Although, I'm sure, to quote the title of a marvellous British thriller, ca. 1968, by [[Desmond Skirrow]] that I'm rereading for the Nth time, '''It Won't Get You Anywhere'''. [[User:Hayford Peirce|Hayford Peirce]] 02:17, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
Although, I'm sure, to quote the title of a marvellous British thriller, ca. 1968, by [[Desmond Skirrow]] that I'm rereading for the Nth time, '''It Won't Get You Anywhere'''. [[User:Hayford Peirce|Hayford Peirce]] 02:17, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
:I shall defer to Russell, but, from my knowledge of the literature of military history, "American Civil War" is far more common than "U.S. Civil War." Even members of the [[Confederate States of America]] would probably have agreed to the first, but they certainly didn't see the states as united. I shall observe that the proper docents at the Museum of the Confederacy in Richmond do tend to speak of "the late unpleasantness between the states", and, in certain other contexts, one may hear variously of the "War of Yankee Aggression" or the "War to Free the Slaves".
:So, I'd lean toward Origins of the American Civil War, with the assumption that all U.S. Civil War articles would be retitled. Personally, I'd prefer "Causes" as more straightforward than "Origins". [[User:Howard C. Berkowitz|Howard C. Berkowitz]] 03:27, 27 February 2009 (UTC)

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What should this article be called? In any case, It Won't Get You Anywhere

Now that Prof. Jensen is gone, could we have a rational disussion about the names of some of the articles?

Why not United States Civil War, origins

American Civil War, origins

Origins of the United States Civil War

Origins of the American Civil War

et ainsi de suite for those people from 1861 Nouvelle Orleans....

Constructive suggestions welcomed.

Although, I'm sure, to quote the title of a marvellous British thriller, ca. 1968, by Desmond Skirrow that I'm rereading for the Nth time, It Won't Get You Anywhere. Hayford Peirce 02:17, 27 February 2009 (UTC)

I shall defer to Russell, but, from my knowledge of the literature of military history, "American Civil War" is far more common than "U.S. Civil War." Even members of the Confederate States of America would probably have agreed to the first, but they certainly didn't see the states as united. I shall observe that the proper docents at the Museum of the Confederacy in Richmond do tend to speak of "the late unpleasantness between the states", and, in certain other contexts, one may hear variously of the "War of Yankee Aggression" or the "War to Free the Slaves".
So, I'd lean toward Origins of the American Civil War, with the assumption that all U.S. Civil War articles would be retitled. Personally, I'd prefer "Causes" as more straightforward than "Origins". Howard C. Berkowitz 03:27, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
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