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Apropos of the role, the Japanese debriefs said that three things beat them: submarine attacks on their supply lines, fast carrier operations (i.e., the "seatrain" or underway replenishment so the carrier forces stayed in constant action) and island-hopping. We were absolutely unfair and didn't fight the battleship action in the Western Pacific that we were supposed to. [[User:Howard C. Berkowitz|Howard C. Berkowitz]] 00:20, 25 October 2008 (UTC)
Apropos of the role, the Japanese debriefs said that three things beat them: submarine attacks on their supply lines, fast carrier operations (i.e., the "seatrain" or underway replenishment so the carrier forces stayed in constant action) and island-hopping. We were absolutely unfair and didn't fight the battleship action in the Western Pacific that we were supposed to. [[User:Howard C. Berkowitz|Howard C. Berkowitz]] 00:20, 25 October 2008 (UTC)
== mass confusion here - we need precision, precision, and MORE precision ==
Howard,
The deeper I get into this (starting out just by editing two "distinguished" or whatnot), the more I am baffled, confused, and not understanding:
1:) Is there *one* friggin' flag that you, me, Jack Kennedy, or Bull Halsey can attach to his rowboat, PT-boat, ferryboat, or aircraft carrier and thereby designate it as the *flagship*?
2.) Or are there a *multitude* of flags that people carry around with them just in case they're needed? Ie, Jack Kennedy carried around one that signified "I am a Lt. Jg, but I am in charge of this flotilla?"
3.) Or are there a *limited* number of flags, each one designating a certain rank: Ie, Lt. Commander, Commander, Rear Admiral (lower), Rear Admiral (higher), Jr. Admiral, Lt. Admiral, Lord of the Navies Admiral; Ernie Friggin' King-type Admiral, or what?
If we're gonna have a bunch of words here about *flags*, let's have some exact details.
And, while we're at it, I can't believe that pix of various "distinguished" and/or "distinguishing" flags aren't in the public domain.  How about importing some *specific* pictures, and telling us what they refer to?
As a guy who drives on the Nimitz Freeway frequently in Oakland, I thank'ee.... [[User:Hayford Peirce|Hayford Peirce]] 03:15, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

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"distinguished flag"

This doesn't sound right to me, and a Google search seems to confirm it -- I don't find any evidence of usage like this. "Distinguishing flag" maybe, or something equivalent. I know what you want to say, but don't think that this is the way to do it. Hayford Peirce 23:19, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

Nimitz's "flagship"

For Noel: the anecdote has several theories. Nimitz was a qualified submariner, so may have been paying tribute, or even foresaw their importance. The other theory is that Grayling was the deck in best condition in Pearl Harbor at the time; not all the fires were out yet.

Apropos of the role, the Japanese debriefs said that three things beat them: submarine attacks on their supply lines, fast carrier operations (i.e., the "seatrain" or underway replenishment so the carrier forces stayed in constant action) and island-hopping. We were absolutely unfair and didn't fight the battleship action in the Western Pacific that we were supposed to. Howard C. Berkowitz 00:20, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

mass confusion here - we need precision, precision, and MORE precision

Howard,

The deeper I get into this (starting out just by editing two "distinguished" or whatnot), the more I am baffled, confused, and not understanding:

1:) Is there *one* friggin' flag that you, me, Jack Kennedy, or Bull Halsey can attach to his rowboat, PT-boat, ferryboat, or aircraft carrier and thereby designate it as the *flagship*?

2.) Or are there a *multitude* of flags that people carry around with them just in case they're needed? Ie, Jack Kennedy carried around one that signified "I am a Lt. Jg, but I am in charge of this flotilla?"

3.) Or are there a *limited* number of flags, each one designating a certain rank: Ie, Lt. Commander, Commander, Rear Admiral (lower), Rear Admiral (higher), Jr. Admiral, Lt. Admiral, Lord of the Navies Admiral; Ernie Friggin' King-type Admiral, or what?

If we're gonna have a bunch of words here about *flags*, let's have some exact details.

And, while we're at it, I can't believe that pix of various "distinguished" and/or "distinguishing" flags aren't in the public domain. How about importing some *specific* pictures, and telling us what they refer to?

As a guy who drives on the Nimitz Freeway frequently in Oakland, I thank'ee.... Hayford Peirce 03:15, 25 October 2008 (UTC)