Talk:Linux (operating system)

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first comments

Is anyone else amused about how cautious the first paragraph is? It's like two points of view are both trying to express their arguments in one sentence. I'd almost say we should just have a minor heading about Linux vs GNU/Linux. Nick Johnson 11:06, 22 February 2007 (CST)

I wonder if that is not obtained when starting with MIMIX as the start for Linus Torvald's endeavour to create a multipurpose unix version. Put that into historic context to the free software becoming more popular, resulting in (now) consultancy companies prividing free open source linux such as Red Hat and the likes. Robert Tito | Talk 11:12, 22 February 2007 (CST)

I think "Linux" should be about Linux (the thing on kernel.org) and "Linux distribution" should discuss the operating system family &c. I really don't mean to say this in the context of any GNU/Linux name debate (note that I didn't suggest an article named "GNU/Linux distribution"), but the coincidental placement of this comment might make it seem that way. Rather, I think that this is more precise terminology, and that both articles would be able to contain very different sets of information, as a kernel and a family of operating systems are rather different things, even if this family of operating systems is defined by being based around said kernel. Raymond Pasco 20:59, 28 March 2007 (CDT)

I agree with Raymond - Linux (disambiguation) may be necessary, with links to GNU/Linux and Linux Distribution in that disambig. article. RMS would have a fit if he saw just Linux as its own, standalone article. Eric M Gearhart 11:53, 31 March 2007 (CDT)

Too techie still?

OK this article has come a long way, however is it too technical? Should we explain what an operating system is on the Linux page? Should we list examples of other OSes such as Windows and Mac OS X? I realize we lean too much toward technical articles sometimes... what can make this more accessible to Joe Schmoe? Eric M Gearhart 12:18, 6 April 2007 (CDT)

I agree completely. I think it'd be a great idea to explain everything in layman's terms, and gradually build the reader's knowledge. Also, perhaps we should use a higher resolution image of Tux (we need to explain that, too), such as this one. Joshua David Williams 12:24, 6 April 2007 (CDT)

The solution to the resolution problem would be to use a Scalable Vector Graphics (svg)-based image file - its scale is decided by the user (I shoulda thought of that one). I'll try and find a decent one of Tux, that has an acceptable license Eric M Gearhart 12:31, 6 April 2007 (CDT)

OK well MediaWiki doesn't like svg files (it says the file is corrput). I guess I'll try and post something under technical issues on the forum asking about this. An SVG is the best way to do this. We'll see what the forum says. Eric M Gearhart 12:48, 6 April 2007 (CDT)

According to this forum post SVG isn't going to be supported any time soon. Oh well. Leaving the png you uploaded is the best thing to do I spose. --Eric M Gearhart 14:03, 6 April 2007 (CDT)

we're not a manual

I really don't like the section on File System, and other parts of this article that read like a technical manual. I don't think the world needs another book describing the gory guts of Linux. Instead, I think we should describe (briefly) what Linux is, when it came about, and what differentiates it from other operating systems (i.e., it's free, it runs on Intel chips like Windows, it runs on cheap hardware, it's like UNIX and lots of people LOVED unix and wanted to continue using it (perhaps rather than learning new stuff? OK, that's low, I know, I know). Anyway, that's where I think we should be going with this article. All the old stuff has been written about, on the web, ad nauseum. Just Google file permissions and see what you get!Pat Palmer 00:45, 7 April 2007 (CDT)

OK, I've just gone and removed that section on file system, and I'm archiving it here in case anyone is offended.Pat Palmer 01:18, 7 April 2007 (CDT)

I agree with you there Pat... if someone wanted to find out how the Linux filesystem is laid out there are resources online for this (the Linux Standards Base defines the filesystem)
As you said... "we're not a manual" --Eric M Gearhart 04:05, 7 April 2007 (CDT)