Talk:Augustin-Louis Cauchy/Draft

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A sentence from intro

"He established a convergence criterion for sequences of the type that are now called Cauchy sequences". After quite a long reflection I changed it slightly. It's difficult to keep "criterion" and "Cauchy sequence" in one sentence (perhaps not necessary). Please copy edit. Aleksander Stos 16:20, 3 November 2007 (CDT)

PS. Excellent text! I see an approved article emerging on the horizon.

I gave the sentence another try, maybe we should consult a native speaker.--Paul Wormer 11:24, 4 November 2007 (CST)

Finished

I have finished Cauchy for now. If licences permit the illustrations would be nice additions. Alek, when you see room for improvement, be my guest. --Paul Wormer 07:35, 4 November 2007 (CST). PS. I just saw that the French WP has a very long thorough article on Cauchy. For people reading French and wanting to know more about Cauchy this article is a must. --Paul Wormer 08:11, 4 November 2007 (CST) . PS2 The German WP version is also good, it looks very much like the CZ version (apparently they also used Belhoste as basis, as I did). It would have helped if I had seen the French and German versions earlier. --Paul Wormer 09:00, 4 November 2007 (CST)

These images are all good to go. Stephen Ewen 11:06, 4 November 2007 (CST)

I felt the need for the two footnotes I added. The problem is that now it breaks the logic of the references section -- my notes fall into referenced Cauchy works... I'm looking for a solution (Cauchy works would better be separate), so if you know some technical means to do that... Aleksander Stos 16:09, 4 November 2007 (CST)

The mathematical caveat (note 5) can easily be put into the text. Is it really necessary to have some arbitrary Spanish center in a footnote? Just for the fun of it, I downloaded another version of the title page and included it temporarily in the text. (It is even less skew). If I would go to the university library, got the collected works off the shelf, and scanned the page myself, would we then need a footnote? The jpg file itself has already the origin and licence info, is that not enough?--Paul Wormer 03:27, 5 November 2007 (CST)

• The mathematical caveat (note 5) can easily be put into the text. I don't object, but I have nothing against a footnote either. Generally I think that in a biographical text it's not that bad if a theorem is slightly/reasonably 'simplified'. Furthermore, precise caveats in the main body can cut the text flow. But I'd readily defer to your decision in this regard. If you like it more in the main text, it may be somewhat shortened.

• This what I did, please feel free to make any amendments you see fit--Paul Wormer 07:10, 6 November 2007 (CST)

• If I would go to the university library, got the collected works off the shelf, and scanned the page myself, would we then need a footnote? Well, I'm not opposed to such idea (!) but one should consider that there might be a subtle difference between crediting a CZ member and an external institution that made some effort to produce something valuable for CZ. Generally your question is somewhat more delicate, there was a related debate on the forum (a link to insert...), a resolution was on the way. Unfortunately, I heard of no definitive outcome, but AFAIK the footnotes were generating probably least objections. Now, one related story. Yesterday, I mailed a manager of the Joconda database. It contains pretty many scanned classical works (I asked for an image of portrait of Cardinal Mazarin). I had to mention that CZ is non-profit and has no funds for images. Then I asked myself why the hell she would agree?? So I added that the source would be mentioned in the capture. I find it a fair trade. I hope a footnote would verify my claim :) (but I havent't heard from them so far). Aleksander Stos 12:10, 5 November 2007 (CST)

• Alek, I contacted Steve (I get the impression that he knows all there is to know about licences). The result of this contact is a short credit line in the caption and lots of info in the image file. Now I will really stop working on this article. Did you see the French WP article? Maybe you want to extend the present CZ article after you have read it. If so, please feel free.--Paul Wormer 07:10, 6 November 2007 (CST)

Excellent

That's some good article writing! You may want to change "Works of Cauchy referred to in text" to simply "References", and prefix them with Cauchy's name. --Tom Morris 04:09, 18 May 2008 (CDT)

Why don't you go ahead and do it, CZ is a Wiki y'know.--Paul Wormer 04:35, 18 May 2008 (CDT)

Done. --Tom Morris 04:44, 18 May 2008 (CDT)

Metadata problem?

Does any of you have an idea why the article is not visible at Category:Articles to Approve? -- Daniel Mietchen 02:49, 21 May 2008 (CDT)

No idea who corrected it and how, but the problem is solved. Thanks! -- Daniel Mietchen 04:51, 21 May 2008 (CDT)

There's this thing called 'database lag' - when you make a change, some things (such as population of categories, etc) take a while to happen, they aren't instant. You probably just saw database lag. J. Noel Chiappa 07:23, 21 May 2008 (CDT)

Approval

This article has several edits that are not included in the approved version. Does the editor want them included? I'll check back again tonight, (Citizendium time:) --D. Matt Innis 11:11, 22 May 2008 (CDT)

Probably best to notify the nominating editor directly; they may not have seen this message. J. Noel Chiappa 15:17, 23 May 2008 (CDT)

Last year we had long discussions about this very thing, but decided that it would be better if workgroups learned to watch their articles. Technically, I'm supposed to just approve whatever version is there when I show up... I assume as we get bigger, this probably won't be a problem. D. Matt Innis 20:25, 23 May 2008 (CDT)

please include the edits in the approval. thanks Richard Jensen 15:28, 23 May 2008 (CDT)

Will do. D. Matt Innis 20:25, 23 May 2008 (CDT)

APPROVED Version 1.0

Good work again! D. Matt Innis 20:49, 23 May 2008 (CDT)

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