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You are from there? Go fetch out your passport. Does it say "Great Britain"? Or does it say "United Kingdom"? [[User:George Swan|George Swan]] ([[User talk:George Swan|talk]]) 20:26, 13 February 2024 (CST) | You are from there? Go fetch out your passport. Does it say "Great Britain"? Or does it say "United Kingdom"? [[User:George Swan|George Swan]] ([[User talk:George Swan|talk]]) 20:26, 13 February 2024 (CST) | ||
:In simple terms, "British" is a nationality whereas "United Kingdom" is a state. You do not say Joe Biden's nationality is United States or US, you say he is American. The nationality of a citizen of the Netherlands is Dutch, and so on. The nationality of someone with a UK passport is British but it is acceptable to say English, Scottish or Welsh as the case may be. | |||
:The point here is the number of annoying errors in the article. Anyone can make a mistake and that doesn't matter as long as it is corrected and as long as the editor recognises the mistake and learns from it. Taking nationality as one example, readers expect a basic biographical fact like that to be correct and rightly so. In other words, if you are going to write an article that readers are likely to read, make sure you do it right or the readers will go away and tell people they know that CZ can't get its facts right. [[User:John Leach|John]] ([[User talk:John Leach|talk]]) 00:56, 14 February 2024 (CST) | |||
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Revision as of 00:56, 14 February 2024
United Kingdom, or Great Britain...
In this edit another contributor removed the assertion Charlotte was a citizen of the United Kingdom, and asserted her nationality was British.
It is my understanding that, prior to the merging of the English and Scottish crowns, there were two separate citizenships. Some people were of Scottish citizenship, other were of English citizenship.
I am not going to look up the exact date. Around 1700.
It is my understanding that people from either Scotland or England were then citizens of Great Britain. It was correct to say those individuals were "British".
During the 1700s Ireland was still a separate country, with its own Parliament, and its own House of Lords.
So, when Ireland merged with Great Britain, was the new country named "The United Kingdom"? It is my understanding that, while citizens may still refer to themselves as "British", because there is no convenient term for an "UKian", this is not technically correct.
You are from there? Go fetch out your passport. Does it say "Great Britain"? Or does it say "United Kingdom"? George Swan (talk) 20:26, 13 February 2024 (CST)
- In simple terms, "British" is a nationality whereas "United Kingdom" is a state. You do not say Joe Biden's nationality is United States or US, you say he is American. The nationality of a citizen of the Netherlands is Dutch, and so on. The nationality of someone with a UK passport is British but it is acceptable to say English, Scottish or Welsh as the case may be.
- The point here is the number of annoying errors in the article. Anyone can make a mistake and that doesn't matter as long as it is corrected and as long as the editor recognises the mistake and learns from it. Taking nationality as one example, readers expect a basic biographical fact like that to be correct and rightly so. In other words, if you are going to write an article that readers are likely to read, make sure you do it right or the readers will go away and tell people they know that CZ can't get its facts right. John (talk) 00:56, 14 February 2024 (CST)
referencectomy
John, you removed a reference in this edit.
Did you consider replacing it with a superior reference?
I used it in George Mountbatten-Windsor and Charles_III. If it is a terribly inaccurate reference it should be replaced with the superior reference you supply here, everywhere it is used.
I used it to document the change that put Charlotte on an equal footing with her siblings, not coming after her younger brothers, like Princess Anne. George Swan (talk) 20:34, 13 February 2024 (CST)
- Can you please explain why you described it as a "rubbish source", so I can recognize another one? It looks OK to me. George Swan (talk) 20:41, 13 February 2024 (CST)