Talk:Ulster Volunteer Force

UVF 1913 vs UVF 1966

Two unrelated organisations sharing the same name - is there a policy regarding disambiguation of article names? Should we go by dates formed (UVF (1913) and UVF (1966)), or some other method. Either way, this page should perhaps be a disambiguation page. --Mal McKee 12:36, 14 May 2008 (CDT)

To my knowledge they were successor organisations? Denis Cavanagh 12:41, 14 May 2008 (CDT)

No, the original basically disbanded some time after having seen action in the First World War. The more recent one had no connections with the former, save that the founders thought to 'pay tribute to' the original organisation by using the name. I think Jonathan Bardon illustrates this well in his A History of Ulster. Though I've left my copy with someone, I've just asked them to see if they can find the relevant passage.

The CAIN website also says, "The group adopted the name of the previous UVF", indicating that there was no direct connection between the two, despite presumably the sentiment of the founders of the later organisation. --Mal McKee 14:29, 14 May 2008 (CDT)

IRA and variants - page naming

While we're on the subject, has any convention been sorted with regard to the naming of the various incarnations of the IRA? Obviously, since the split between the Official IRA and the Provisional IRA, the latter had often been referred to as "the Provos" which eventually lost favour in the media to simply "the IRA". This may lead to ambiguity in some places for our readers with regard to which particular and specific group was involved with some events as, before the 1969/70 split, there had only really been a singular IRA. --Mal McKee 15:10, 14 May 2008 (CDT)