Talk:Ottoman Empire

Reversion

I have created this section in anticipation of the discussion that is warranted by the reversion that has been performed on my edits to this article, in the absence of that discussion being initiated by the reverter. I have also reinstated my contributions to the article pending that discussion. See this section specifically on standardisation of articles for my concerns about the article and this section on the reversion process. Also this section, particularly the part about "Resolving content disputes among authors", and finally here is a quote from CZ:The Author Role - "Authors take pride in their work, but all articles are owned and managed by the whole community. We all take responsibility, and mostly we negotiate (on talk pages) to a mutually acceptable compromise." David Finn 12:05, 22 March 2011 (UTC)

At least with my screen (large) and my eyes, the map is currently obviously much too small. I'd say it could be enlarged considerably without interfering with text.

On the other hand, could it move to a "map" subpage? Or be labelled "click to enlarge"? Either of those lets us have a large version without interfering with text. Sandy Harris 13:10, 22 March 2011 (UTC)

I haven't yet read this or gone through the history, but I'm glad to help. While I'm not especially expert on the Ottomans, although I do know one nonmember -- also a combat engineer so be nice to him -- I'm more steeped in the Arab Revolt and other reactions to the breakup of the Empire. Nevertheless, as a History Editor, can I help in some gentle way? Howard C. Berkowitz 14:09, 22 March 2011 (UTC)

Certainly Howard, Editor input would be most welcome. The question however is not one of content but of presentation - is it desireable to have a fullpage map within an articles body, especially given the principle of standardisation of articles? I don't recall seeing a 700px image used in any article on CZ so far. Normally we use pictures to enhance text, but it appears that this picture is to be used in place of text. It seems to me that, as Sandy suggests, if someone wants to enlarge the image they may simply click on it, and we could say that underneath the image. It also seems to me that it should be more desireable to incorporate text found in images into articles, rather than use larger pictures instead of article content. I am interested in your views as an Editor and member of the EC. I think that Sandys suggestion of a subpage for maps is a good one. Subpages are a standard CZ remedy, but the use of fullpage pictures in articles is not one I have encountered so far. David Finn 15:01, 22 March 2011 (UTC)

OK, I have made an editorial decision. There is no text and the map is not readable in small form. Furthermore, even with text I would recommend the map be there in large format for usability. The motivation in removing this is not apparent, and open to conjecture that I shall not engage in. Martin Baldwin-Edwards 17:33, 22 March 2011 (UTC)

Unfortunately you are not an Editor on CZ and therefore have no authority to make Editorial decisions. I have already engaged an Editor and member of the EC - your reversion without discussion is therefore inappropriate. I have no recourse but to report this matter to the Constabulary. David Finn 18:53, 22 March 2011 (UTC)