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Old discussions @ August, 21st 2007

Welcome, Nereo! --Larry Sanger 02:35, 1 November 2006 (CST)

he fungii

There's actually an explanation--I had deleted the html code in the line above, and when I found the page didn't work without it, I apparently reinserted it wrong. :)DavidGoodman 16:57, 27 November 2006 (CST)

Well, typos always escape to the author. I just cannot believe my eyes when I see my proofs sometimes... and I am statistically sure there is something incredibly wrong in the articles I posted in CZ, too.

BTW, do you need some pictures of mushrooms for that article? I have my own collection, and I can upload it under any kind of licence. Just need to take the time of getting good scans from slides.

Nereo Preto 04:27, 28 November 2006 (CST)

Thanks for the superscript fix for my isotopes page. Now I see how to do it. --David E. Volk 04:05, 22 April 2007 (CDT)

Big Speedy Delete

In the process of tagging articles for the BSD, it can happen that we mistakenly tag an article for deletiøn. The check on that proceedure is if it is on somebody's watch list and they are still interested in it. If this happens to an article of yours, don't take it personally. Just go to the article and remove the BSD tag. James F. Perry 10:07, 18 February 2007 (CST)

Yes, it's only I just realized of this BSD business, thanks. --Nereo Preto 10:10, 18 February 2007 (CST)

Nereo, I'm sorry for any inconvenience--we don't want to cause people to have to go through the work (again) of grabbing an article from Wikipedia. However, you must admit that this isn't much work. Moreover, if one hasn't worked on an article here in CZ very much, and we are simply mirroring the Wikipedia version, then this creates two problems: (1) the CZ database is diluted with WP articles, allowing people to correctly accuse us of being "just another mirror of Wikipedia"; and (2) people who might be inclined to work on an article on a topic are discouraged from doing so because they don't really want to edit an amateurish WP article.

I would ask you to upload an article from WP only when you are ready to really change it significantly here on CZ, and not before that.

Thanks --Larry Sanger 11:15, 18 February 2007 (CST)

Never mind, I'm not getting mad about this! I was offline for several hours because of... well, a flu, so I missed that the BSD project was launched. I just did not understand was going on for some minutes...

About those two articles (Stage (geology) and Chronostratigraphy), I don't follow you. Stage (geology) simply does not exist in WP; Chronostratigraphy was substantially wrote from scratch (compare CZ and WP). Not that I believe it is much of a work, but it's no doubts something done into CZ... I didn't contribute further because I hope other authors will complete it - I'm not here to rewrite geology, I'm rather interested in the collaborative aspects. Besides, I'll probably be the editor in charge for those articles, I does not make much sense if I eventually approve an article to which I was the only substantial contributor.

Anyways, again, never mind: I cancelled the template and everything is settled now. :)

--Nereo Preto 01:40, 19 February 2007 (CST)

Age restored

Age (geology--sorry for the delete. No doubt I assumed it was sourced from Wikipedia. --Larry Sanger 08:08, 21 February 2007 (CST)

Thanks Larry! --Nereo Preto 12:27, 6 March 2007 (CST)

Recently uploaded image(s)

Hi. Thanks for contributing to CZ! I hate to have to tell you this but one or more images you recently uploaded are lacking clear copyright data. Please carefully review the image(s) you uploaded while referencing Images Help—Copyrights. Please fix the problem rapidly, as the image(s) will otherwise have to be deleted. Thanks! — Stephen Ewen 19:32, 15 April 2007 (CDT)

Done, thanks. --Nereo Preto 02:05, 16 April 2007 (CDT)

Earth vs. earth

Capitalization of earth depends on the context. Astronomical objects are generally capitalized, thus Venus, Earth, Mars, when they occur together, but in a non-astronomical context "earth," "moon" and "sun" are generally not capitalized. Bernard Haisch 17:23, 20 April 2007 (CDT)

Thanks, --Nereo Preto 03:37, 21 April 2007 (CDT)

Southern Alps

See Minami arupsu (Southern Alps) or Akaishi sanmyaku (red-stone mountain-range. They are in Japan. - Thomas Simmons 17:05, 21 April, 2007 (EPT)

Hi Thomas. The most known (to me) Southern Alps are the mountain chain of New Zealand's Southern Island (e.g., Southern Alps in Wikipedia). Southern Alps is also the name of a "structural domain" of the (European) Alps, that is, one of the parts of the Alps delimited by major faults. Most of my research I did in the (Eu) Southern Alps, by the way: beautiful mountains, the Dolomites are part of it. I didn't know of a mountain chain with the same name in Japan - could you provide me a link? I wonder how many other "Southern Alps" exist around...

Thanks for this note.

--Nereo Preto 03:36, 21 April 2007 (CDT)

Map here. I lived in the City of Kofu in Yamanashi Prefecture for about a year back in the late 80s. If you head east to the right you'll be in Yokohama. There are a lot of images on the internet under southern alps and use 'Japan' for advanced search - Thomas Simmons 20:51, 21 April, 2007 (EPT)

Global warming

Hi, Nereo. I am not a scientist but a computer programmer with minimal teaching experience. I've been at Wikipedia since November 2001 and got to know Larry Sanger quite well in Wikipedia's early days. He and I see eye to eye on NPOV and professional courtesy, for example.

I may have made a mistake by starting an article on a controversial topic, before having even one approved article. But I was "being bold", and I hope you will take a look at it. My view is that the science is almost settled, i.e., that warming and cooling is due to natural factors. But I have trouble with all the big words in journal articles, so I have to rely on popular accounts. --Ed Poor 11:15, 10 May 2007 (CDT)

This article is STRONGLY NEEDED, but yes, it's going to be very controversial. We need a climatologist here sooner or later, I can spot major technical problems, however. Anyway, I don't believe you did a mistake.

Try this blog for good science on the topic: they are getting very technical in the discussions, but initial threads are great and often easy to understand. Those guys are the N°1 in climate science, and they are totally for anthropogenic global warming (perhaps the two things are related? But make up your own mind, of course).

During geologic time, warming and cooling was of course natural. The big discussion is about the last ca. 100 years, and the great majority of scientists are for anthropogenic causes. I espect a big discussion to start in the talk page about this.

Thanks for your contribution, I'll work on it soon.

--Nereo Preto 11:28, 10 May 2007 (CDT)

Please see my recent comments at talk:Global warming. I want to write the article the way you tell me to; you're the boss! --Ed Poor 19:27, 30 May 2007 (CDT)

I'm not the boss, of course, just editor. Your latest posts in Global warming and talk:Global warming were reverted, but I read the contents in the history pages. I believe the main problem there was you posted some false statements. For example: it is not true there are predictions of the Global warming theory that cannot be tested in the real world. Under this point of view, the theory of Antropogenic global warming is a typical scientific theory, not pseudoscience. By the way, those predictions are generally not falsified by observations, i.e., the theory of AGW is still alive and in good health. Take the prediction that ocean waters would become more acidic, and determine a crisis of calcification. Recent observations show a rise of the Carbonate Compensation Depth, as predicted (Orr et al., 2005, Nature, v. 437, pp. 681-686).

More generally, it is always wise to refer to peer-reviewed literature. Many internet sites are stuffed with personal views and are going to be misleading with respect to what science actually established. The best way to contribute is to start from peer-reviewed literature, with a preference for journals with higher impact factors. --Nereo Preto 08:21, 31 May 2007 (CDT)

Ciao. Parlo io un po di lingua italiana.

I was in Lodi, near Milano for four months a year ago. David Tribe 21:22, 25 May 2007 (CDT)

Lodi... I never been there, but I know the cheeses. Got Gorgonzola? --Nereo Preto 11:15, 27 May 2007 (CDT)

More on global warming

The article Global warming got erroneously moved to the title "global warming controversy" and many of its contents are deleted by an author which I don't want to name here. The new title is misleading, since it makes people wonder whether global warming exists, while its existence is undeniable and solid. I would move it back but I'm not an expert. I've also informed editor Nancy in her talk page. Regards. Yi Zhe Wu 21:41, 26 May 2007 (CDT)

Thanks Yi Zhe Wu, I did some drastical changes I felt were needed. I also reverted to your last version. I think everyone is welcome to contribute, but adding a piece each time instead of doing a mess with complicate edits makes revision more straightforward. See you at the article!

--Nereo Preto 11:16, 27 May 2007 (CDT)

Thanks for the help. However, I don't know if my last version was good enough for you to revert back to as I'm not an expert :-) That editor has raised some good points that are not unwarranted, but I just felt the move was unjustified. But we will see how it goes, as multiple editors are paying attention now. Regards. Yi Zhe Wu 11:19, 27 May 2007 (CDT)